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Topic: new A/C, very quiet
Posted By: beaster
Subject: new A/C, very quiet
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2018 at 2:24pm
Just replaced 13500 btu 1 speed loud factory A/C with a coleman mach 8 9,500 btu. Has a low and hi speed fan. Had it on low last weekend in
85 degree weather durning the day here in Florida and it kept it about 72 during the day. Best of all, I can finally sleep at night.



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Posted By: TheBum
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2018 at 2:37pm
Do you have an older Pod? All the ones in recent years have come with two-speed fans.

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Alan
2022 R-Pod 196 "RaptoRPod"
2022 Ram 1500 Lone Star 4x4
Three cats


Posted By: flat6s
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2018 at 3:45pm
Yes, but even though our new ones have 2 speed fans, man are they loud. I had a neighbor wanting to fight with me because my ac was so loud it was keeping him up all jight.  He finally gave it up and left.  And I understood what he was saying. I wish there was a way to quit it down.  If someone has a good idea I would love to hear it.
Joe


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2018 at 4:03pm
From outside, the 13,500 BTU unit in our 2016 RP179 is quiet. It is inside that it is loud. Things I did to quiet it down some:

1. Change sleeping position to have the head of the bed at the door side of the trailer instead of the slide-out side. Since the wardrobe is there, it blocks a little bit of the sound.
2. Set the AC fan speed to low instead of high or automatic (the worst). On low, it is a steady sound and the compressor cycling on and off is not so obvious. It also is not changing back and forth from low to high speed.
3. Remove the inside shroud (carefully as there are screws that are not readily visible that need to be removed). Then using spray adhesive such as the high-strength one from Krylon, glue thin closed-cell foam to the inside of the shroud making sure that the sliding panel and pivoting air directors are not obstructed or glued.
4. When reinstalling the shroud, make sure the wires are not directly in the downward airflow from the outside unit.

While these steps do not make a huge difference, they do make a difference. However, the thing that has the most effect is running the fan speed on low since then you have a constant sound which is much less objectionable than one that is cycling on and off.


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: TheBum
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2018 at 4:29pm
I do the same as StephenH: run the fan on low. It's like a white noise generator and makes it easier for me to sleep.

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Alan
2022 R-Pod 196 "RaptoRPod"
2022 Ram 1500 Lone Star 4x4
Three cats


Posted By: beaster
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2018 at 3:37pm
It is a 2014 182g, the thermostat shows a low and high, but the speed and noise stays the same. I sold the old A/C for $300 first day I put it on Craig's list. I new Coleman actually has two separate motors for hi and lo.   


Posted By: voisj
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2018 at 10:38pm
I have been considering this, the 13k unit is loud and I've heard the 9.5 unit and it's a lot quieter. If I had to run it at night I would have done it by now, haven't had to yet. Cali nights are cool ,even in the deserts.

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John&Sue,SLO,CA
2016 180 HRE, 2013 F150 Eco Boost
 


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2018 at 8:40am
Originally posted by voisj

Cali nights are cool ,even in the deserts.
Maybe especially in the deserts. They seem to have a very wide day to night temperature swing.


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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2018 at 9:09am
Having spent a couple of months at the National Training Center at Fort Irwin, California, I can vouch for the very wide temperature swings between daytime and nighttime. I got there in August and my temporary duty. It was very hot during the daytime but I really appreciated my sleeping bag during the night. The last trip out, it was not nearly adequate as a front went through. It started raining so I spent the night near a team from a unit I was helping evaluate. Overnight, the temps dropped to freezing and in the morning there was ice all over everything. I was freezing since I only had the intermediate cold sleeping bag that wasn't so great as it had been issued to a number of Soldiers and was worn past the point where it should have been replaced. The team I was near had the newer sleep system with the Goretex covers. At least they were warm.

It really makes me appreciate the furnace in the R-Pod, even if I did have to figure out how to cover the noise. I use a fan plugged into one of the 12V outlets I installed to do that. If I have to run the AC in the summer, running the fan constant on low works since then it isn't cutting fully on and off and the compressor cycling is not nearly so obvious as the start and stop and the switching speeds of the fan when that happens.


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: lgblau
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 7:35pm
Why is all this nonsense necessary. I have been an RV’er si ce 1995, and have never head of some of the things involved with the R-Pod. It is crazy.

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Leonard🌵
2017/179
2017 Ram 1500


Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 7:40pm
Originally posted by lgblau

Why is all this nonsense necessary. I have been an RV’er si ce 1995, and have never head of some of the things involved with the R-Pod. It is crazy.


Since the thread is about the volume of the a/c.. "the nonsense" is about the fact that some people find a large a/c unit, in a small space, to not be to their licking. It isn't pod specific, many small camper owners are bothered by it. 


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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 7:43pm
Originally posted by lgblau

Why is all this nonsense necessary. I have been an RV’er si ce 1995, and have never head of some of the things involved with the R-Pod. It is crazy.

Define "nonsense." I see from your signature that you own an RP179 like I do. Some things may not bother you but may bother someone not familiar with small camping trailers who buys one and then is surprised that noise that would not be noticed in a large RV is very noticeable in a small one. For me, I remember spending some nights in my parents' motor home which was not small by any means. I remember the AC in that motor home being very loud, so I was not surprised at the unit in the R-Pod. I found out that running so the fan stayed on low constantly instead of letting cycle on and off and change speeds between low and high made for a much better experience.


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: lgblau
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 8:18pm
The nonsense is from the fact that the R-Pod is poorly engineered, from the leaking seams to the a/c that is probably to big for the interior space. The nonsense is from the complaints about the screws, being screwed into thin air, and the shower floor with no support under it. This thing appears to be the Edsel of the travel trailer industy.

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Leonard🌵
2017/179
2017 Ram 1500


Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 6:57am
Originally posted by lgblau

The nonsense is from the fact that the R-Pod is poorly engineered, from the leaking seams to the a/c that is probably to big for the interior space. The nonsense is from the complaints about the screws, being screwed into thin air, and the shower floor with no support under it. This thing appears to be the Edsel of the travel trailer industy.


Yes definitely..

That's why it's the number one selling unit in it's class, and literally spawned a return of the small camper segment all by itself. It isn't a honda civic or porsche turbo. It's a small little house that goes down the road, and is built as inexpensively as possible.

Your best bet, at this juncture, is to sell your 179 soon. It's start of season, a relatively new unit, with most of the kinks worked out. It will NEVER be worth more then it is right now. Call it a lesson learned. Take the proceeds of the sale and apply to whatever camper your research has shown to you to be built perfectly. Airstream (3 x $$$), Oliver (4x$$$$), etc. Or, just walk away from the whole camper deal. Your call.

 


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Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 7:10am
++++++++++++++++++++++++  Very well said furpod.

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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: Larry-D
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 7:57am
I feel so left out, I've never had any problems with mine.  Well except for the outside shower handle cracking from residual water I left in it over the weekend.


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 11:32am
Boy, if LarryD feels left out, I'm lostagain.  We have a 11 year old 172 that is like nearly new.  Granted, we took out the television and have repurposed it in my wife's sewing shop, and never had a microwave or fancy stereo, so there isn't a lot of stuff that can go wrong.  And we replaced a 10 year old Dometic fridge, when the cost of repair made it a dubious investment.  But all the basic systems work well.  It's easy to maintain [a necessity for any travel trailer], comfortable, and trouble free.  

 Pods are not high end big double axle trailers that ensure you have all the comforts and systems of your home.  They are camping trailers that require simplifying your outdoor experience.  That's precisely why they are so nice.  They are simple, comfortable, and affordable for a person on a limited budget.  Most of the problems reported seem to be connected with trying to make a Pod into a high end travel trailer with systems that defy it's original concept.


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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: lgblau
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 1:34pm
I would think that an outlay of $16000, should give me more than a years worth of maintenance free use. I realize that it is low budget, but shouldn’t quality be a factor no matter what the price. 

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Leonard🌵
2017/179
2017 Ram 1500


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 2:31pm
In the technology business it was always said, "You want (1) fast, (2) cheap, and (3) quality? Pick two."



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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: lgblau
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 2:40pm
I am not talking about cheap “China”stuff. This is American made. Why would you accept less.

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Leonard🌵
2017/179
2017 Ram 1500


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 3:38pm
Igblau,

So what is the stuff you're trying to fix? Lets see if we can work thru it. I had a 4 star I worked for years ago and he used to say it's hard to roll up your sleeves and go to work if you're wringing your hands:) Interestingly the trailer I did the most work on was an Airstream I owned.

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 3:49pm
Holy carp... sell.

Please.
It will make all of us feel better if you let the buyers remorse go, and find something that fits your expectations better. Help the American economy, spend more money.

NOTHING made by man is perfect. You don't get Porsche quality for VW money. sh*t happens. Use your warranty. Etc, Etc.

On this forum, many many members got here because they had a problem or question.. so if YOUR view of pod ownership troubles is based on what you see here, your data is "skewed". I don't currently know the exact number of pods built at this point, and don't feel like making the call today to find out, but believe me it's a heck of a lot more then those represented here on this board. Thousands and thousands of owners (literally tens of thousands) have felt NO NEED to come here and ask questions, or had problems or issues.

If you go pull a chair up outside the entrance to a Mercedes Benz service dept entrance for a few days, you will soon be convinced that MBs are trash. It just isn't so.... But it will be the owners you see and interact with views. But you won't see all the owners WHO didn't need to come in.

Same thing here.

I am sorry you had issues, sorry you don't understand that a house that goes 70mph needs regular maintenance, sorry you expect perfection from the world when it just can't be achieved. I feel sorry for you that you can't just go camping and enjoy the experience.

In a world where there are RV's with $16k BATHTUBS.. a $16K camper is no big outlay, even if it was your last $. That's the truth of it. I don't necessarily like it any more then the next guy.. but it is what it is.

Pretty sure the original topic has been covered, dissected, and commented on, as much as needed.

That's it for me. I am out of this thread and ignoring the igblau. Maybe a great guy in person, who drinks top shelf bourbon, loves dogs, and eats thick cut bacon at every meal.. but I don't aim to find out..


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Posted By: lgblau
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 4:54pm
mcarter....I fully understand that appliances, etc do break, but you will never convince me that the outside walls of your 11 month old Airstream came apart, and you had to figure out how to put it back together. What I have been trying to state is that the the repairs some members are being forced to deal with, should not have happened in the first place, and the”Oh Well “ attitude of some is BS. I do appreciate your past help, and respect your opinions. Thank You.

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Leonard🌵
2017/179
2017 Ram 1500


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 5:06pm
Ok, if I can be of help, I will. I strongly believe in "Podders Helping Podders". Happy Trails.

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 6:41pm
Igblau, I think you may have unrealistic expectations about the r-Pod.  Yes, there should be better quality control and some of the things that have been reported are concerning and have not necessarily been handled well by FR or by their dealers.  Indeed, FR does not seem to have very good control over the dealer network representing their products, based on too many reports of non-selling dealers refusing to fix warranty issues.  

But, expectations of a Rolls Royce hand made quality, or even that of a BMW or Lexis, are unrealistic.  These things are designed for the bottom end of the market that sells trailers with contained baths and galleys.  Their quality control is not the best and the workmanship reflects low paid workers who are pressured to put their focus on high volume not high quality.  It would not surprise me if the on the factory floor were paid piece work wages; a guarantee of marginal quality.  Now add to that equation the fact that all RV's use super lightweight materials and components that often are flimsy and unsuited to the task.  No, it shouldn't be that way, but there are not a lot of outside regulations controlling the construction of RV's as one would fine with building codes for the construction of human occupied or used permanent structures.  

Indeed, if strict building and quality codes were applied, many would find the prices would be far higher and they would howl about unnecessary regulation and government intrusion.  So, we have a bit of a laissez faire market in RV's and the market should sort out the good ones from the bad ones.  But just as Walmart is the biggest retailer in the country, price, not quality, is what often drives the market.  People will accept lousy quality for a cheap price.  If you want higher quality, then pay more and demand the quality you expect from the seller.  If he or she won't give you what you believe you are entitled to receive, go look for another seller.  And if no one wants to produce the quality you feel is desirable, start your own company.  And if the gamble pays off you'll be richer than Warren Buffett the owner of FR.


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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: lgblau
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 8:08pm
Lostagain....I appreciate your lecture on Capitolism, but I do not want to start my own company. However, FR (Buffett) is gladly taking our money, in return for a shoddy product. Regardless of who his workers are, or what they earn we, the buyers deserve better. I fell in love with the looks, and idea of the R-Pod. I did not get on my hands and knees to inspect the bolts that hold the black tank on place. I bought, what I thought was a good American made item. It was represented to be a quality product. It did not have to be expensive to achive that. If you are happy with yours please enjoy it in good health, but when the siding starts to delaminate, remember the BS you tried to feed me.

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Leonard🌵
2017/179
2017 Ram 1500


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 9:12pm
Really, Igblau, you'd probably be better off following furpod's advice and trading your Pod for some other brand manufactured by a company other than FR.  And though I go out of my way to buy things made in the USA, it is, unfortunately, no guarantee of quality.  To wit:  American cars were garbage until the Japanese started giving us competition.  

FR should fix your delamination there is no doubt about that.  It is a latent defect in workmanship that you could not have seen or known about.  Probably it's the result of a problem spraying the adhesive used to bond the fiberglass to the wall structure.  Could be a bad batch of glue, lousy application, or contamination that messed up the bond.  If they don't fix it, I'd see a lawyer about a breach of warranty and demand that they either repair it, pay the cost of repair, or buy it back.  

But from your posts you are trying to paint all rPod trailers as junk because you had problems with yours.  It is not an excuse for FR to build lousy trailers because they are marketing a low end trailer, but the reality is that they don't have the quality control that one would hope.  And it doesn't say much for the company, or Mr. Buffett, that they won't fix it.  But it is the way it is.  Short of getting lawyers involved, which will cost many times the amount in controversy, you're going to have to try to work with the dealer and FR to get them to fix it.  

On the other hand, many of us have found the trailers to be of acceptable quality for the price and somehow manage to deal with the things that should have been done better.  For us, the Pod is a pretty nice budget travel trailer.  But perhaps our expectations were more consistent with the reality of the RV market.  You simply have higher expectations and would probably be much happier spending 3 or 4 times the price of a Pod on a trailer that is of higher quality.  I guess that's the "BS" of the market.

By the way, if I encounter a delamination problem on our long out of warranty Pod, my solution would be to inject some epoxy into the affected area and try to get it to stick.  If that didn't work, I'd get out my old boat fiberglass tools and cut away a piece panel to see if there was a problem with the foam behind the fiberglass panel.  From there, who knows?  I've fixed bigger problems on boats.  But our 9 year old Pod is doing fine and I have had no issues with the quality of the construction, except that I had to vacuum out some debris and dress some wiring when I opened up previously inaccessible areas.




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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: Leo B
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 9:37pm
+ 1 with Furpod.  

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Leo & Melissa Bachand
2017 Ford F150
2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk
Previously owned
2015 Rpod 179
2010 Rpod 171


Posted By: Vector1952
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 10:16pm
Am very happy with my purchase and have not had an issue as of yet..Still going down the road..

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Xxxx7


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2018 at 8:06am
I saw how the walls are made. There is a large machine through which parts go and adhesive is applied. This is lit with a light that shows whether the adhesive is evenly applied. The operator should see if there is any unevenness in adhesive application and fix it. However, we don't always notice things and so it could have been that there was a thin spot in application.

After the adhesive is applied to each layer, the whole wall section is run through a roller press that squeezes the layers together so the adhesive can fully bond them. I don't think the problem would be with this step.

The other potential point of failure would be if there were some contaminant on the surface of the lauan plywood or on the surface of the foam that would prevent the adhesive from forming a good bond. All the work is done indoors, but if perhaps a shipment of materials came in while it was raining and some of the plywood got damp and that was used before it dried, that could make for a weaker bond also. I don't know for sure, but I am speculating as to why some exterior walls could delaminate while others have no issues whatsoever.


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: lgblau
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2018 at 11:17am
Thanks StephenH. I appreciate your comments. I’m finish with this R-Pod thread. I’m going to learn how to chaulk, and make the best of it.

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Leonard🌵
2017/179
2017 Ram 1500



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