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Topic: Air in tires
Posted By: crystabals
Subject: Air in tires
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2018 at 6:20am
Is special air required for tires..



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Posted By: Davidb
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2018 at 6:34am
My 2017 180 came with the nitrogen filled tires.

I have no problem using air from my air compressor. I have seen all of the hype from tire dealers selling people on the "nitrogen" scam. Nitrogen is fine, I just won't go out of my way to use it.

If I owned some Indy race cars I would be using nitrogen, but good old air is fine in my opinion.

If you have 17 minutes of extra time, watch the video about nitrogen, this guy is entertaining.

https://youtu.be/bCnWvMleVD0


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David


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2018 at 7:16am
Nitrogen migrates slower thru rubber than air. And it is less susceptible to temp changes. That being said Air is 78% Nitrogen. AND god luck finding Nitrogen with a low or flat tire.

Use Air.

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: Leo B
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2018 at 7:42am
We use air, carry a small compressor to use when needed.  

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Leo & Melissa Bachand
2017 Ford F150
2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk
Previously owned
2015 Rpod 179
2010 Rpod 171


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2018 at 8:50am
I use air from Neptune.  It's is mostly helium and hydrogen so I am able to lower the weight of the trailer a little and the tires float better.  Evil Smile

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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2018 at 8:57pm
  That's pretty good Fred.  I like that.  We have used normal country air in our 2011 from the get go.  I also carry a tire pump if needed, for the 177, my tow vehicle or my road bike.   BTW Fred, how much weight do you take off your pod by using Neptune air?

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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2018 at 10:03pm
Well, it gets a little complicated because air is invisible and it's really hard to put it on a scale and weight it. I weighed the tires on our bathroom scale both filled at 65 pounds of pressure and the weight difference was too small for the bathroom scale to detect, but it was an analog scale.  I figure it was about 6 ounces, but I'm just making that up.  The same with the floating.  I threw the tires into a lake, but it was too choppy to discern which floated higher, plus to add to the confusion I forgot to mark which tire was which.  

So in answer to your question, I don't have a clue.  That's why I go by the alias "lostagain."  I hope that clarifies the situation.Big smile  


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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2018 at 10:05pm
I don't think I would want tires with a significant part of the "air" filling them is hydrogen. Remember the Hindenburg!

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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: riotkayak284
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 7:44am
65 LBS? Wow my POD says on the label on the side, 50 LBS.... Sure you are not over-inflating? The verhicle sticker is the correct inflation pressure...

https://info.kaltire.com/the-right-tire-pressure-why-the-maximum-isnt-the-best/



Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 8:15am
Originally posted by riotkayak284

65 LBS? Wow my POD says on the label on the side, 50 LBS.... Sure you are not over-inflating? The verhicle sticker is the correct inflation pressure...

https://info.kaltire.com/the-right-tire-pressure-why-the-maximum-isnt-the-best/



Many owners have swapped their tires to "D" rated tires, they run at 65psi. The "C" rated tires a Pod comes stock with run at 50psi. When it comes to ST "special trailer" tires, you DO run at the max pressure to insure the proper load carrying properties. Trailer tires are very different from passenger car tires.


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Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 8:22am
Originally posted by lostagain

I use air from Neptune.  It's is mostly helium and hydrogen so I am able to lower the weight of the trailer a little and the tires float better.  Evil Smile
UPS charges must be astronomic.


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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 9:13am
furpod is right, I run load range D tires and they need 65 pounds.  And the gas is a little expensive.  I get it from a trading post in Beaty NV, just west of Area 51.  Gus, the owner, also sells remnants and pieces of alien space craft.  He gave me his assurances that the Neputne air is legitimate, so I believe him.  And yes, Stephen you need to be careful about flats, but remember the volume of air is much less and you're driving away from it, likely at 60 mph, so all you get is a little boost, kind of like an after burner on your Pod.

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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: Hayduke
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 9:58am
Originally posted by riotkayak284

65 LBS? Wow my POD says on the label on the side, 50 LBS.... Sure you are not over-inflating? The verhicle sticker is the correct inflation pressure...

https://info.kaltire.com/the-right-tire-pressure-why-the-maximum-isnt-the-best/


Trailer tires are much different than passenger vehicle tires, and should be run at the max pressure.  Which would be different if the pod tires are changed to a different load range.

Also, on passenger vehicles, the sticker on the car is the proper pressure only when dealing with the oem tires and stock vehicle weight.  If any of the variables change, then the proper pressure also changes.


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2012 177 HRE
2017 Tacoma Double Cab


Posted By: codycountry
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 12:25pm
I use high altitude air from the Rocky mountains.  It is pollutant free and has a slight pine scent.  Because it comes from higher altitude it is lighter since it doesn't have as much oxygen in it as sea level air does.
Am hoping someday to get some air from near the Area 51 boundary fence and see if the Pod seems to float behind the truck. 

Seriously though, if I could get nitrogen, I would.  It is unaffected by heat and cold.  When the highways and air temp gets really hot in July and August I see a lot of blown tire pieces laying along Interstate 25-- from tires that heat over-expanded and blew up.    Nitrogen solves that.  


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 6:37pm
I have a 2016 truck with Nitrogen in the tires, I also live at the intersection of 3 major interstates, 65, 24 and 40. I have a factory installed TPMS. I will tell you my pressure varies with heat and cold, not as much with air but still measureable. Blow outs are not solved by what fills the tire. Blow outs can be blamed on over pressure, but a major heat source is under inflation. OTR trucks can have both regrooved and recapped tires, only buses are regulated to have virgin tires on the steering wheels. The material you see on interstates primarily comes from tire failures from OTR vehicles. Granted it can increase during summer months as the road surface has more heat. Nitrogen has nothing to do with this. Once again, air, what we breath and fill tires with is 78% Nitrogen.

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 12:05pm
Originally posted by mcarter

Nitrogen has nothing to do with this. Once again, air, what we breath and fill tires with is 78% Nitrogen.
Agree. The hype about alleged benefits of nitrogen filled tires far exceeds the actual benefit. Personally, I feel it is a waste of time and money.


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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost



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