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Topic: hot water faucet problem
Posted By: ArenaBlanca
Subject: hot water faucet problem
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2018 at 9:58am

I guess it isn't really a problem unless you don't know how to solve it. I know what to do when it happens, but it recurs. That is what I want to solve.

We camped in the Pod for 150 days last year with minimal problems. I winterized and de-wintered the R-Pod using the instructions in the manual developed on this site. I stored the anode for the water heater separately and re-inserted it this spring using Teflon tape to ensure it wasn't leaking.

We went camping this weekend for the first trip this year and had the hot water flow drop to zilch all of a sudden. I removed the aerator from the faucet and there was a small piece of plastic stuck in the aerator. I removed it and the flow returned. The next day the same thing happened again. This time I examined the plastic closely. It was about the width and texture of the Teflon tape but was dark gray in color. This seems to happen only with the hot water flow.

The Teflon tape I use is white in color but I am wondering if a piece of it could have broken off and somehow become discolored in the heating process. Has anyone else encountered something like this?Should I consider flushing just the hot water system?  If so, how do I do that?  What other causes/issues might I need to consider?

My wife reminds me that I used a brand new hose (garden variety) to fill the R-pod, and suggests that a piece of detritus from that could be the cause.  However, we were hooked to a "city water" system in a state park when this was happening.  I also was running the water through a sediment and then a carbon filter before it went into the pod.



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Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2018 at 10:29am
It doesn't sound like the plastic is the teflon tape.  The direction of the twist on the anode threads would tend to push the tape out of, not into the tank.

It certainly would be worth flushing the water system without the strainers in the faucets (sink and shower hose) to see if that clears it.  It may be some debris that got dislodged in travels. But there could also be something starting to break apart in the water system, in which case you need to find out what it is to fix it.  


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Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2018 at 11:07am
The teflon tape won't discolor from the "heating process" or it wouldn't still be white on the anode threads.

When was the last time you sanitized the system? I have seen stuff show up from breaking loose from the inside of the hose.. the "stuff" was plastic feeling, but was organic. It was film from the hose.

I have also seen a water filter break down and send debris through the system.

While I grew up drinking from water hoses, now days, they are all made in China out of who knows what.. so I don't do it anymore. Your call. The book answer is to only use a certified drinking water safe hose, they aren't expensive, or hard to find.

The best way to flush the system would be to hook up to city water, pull the aerators from each faucet, and run water through each one, and each side cold/hot, until you feel it's clear and clean of any debris. It's just fresh water, so you can run it into a bucket and dump or send it out the window, or whatever.. 


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Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2018 at 11:13am
Let me see if I can find some pictures.. Now these are from a 2 year old drinking water hose, start of season.. I now sanitize my hoses every year.

I cut the hose open so I could get good pictures. Here is the biofilm buildup inside the hose..

https://postimg.org/image/4hdqo0tzx/">

made up some sanitation fluid.. bleach and water, in a water bottle. Filled the hose, let it sit over night..

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After..

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Rinsed, reassembled, back in use..

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Posted By: ArenaBlanca
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2018 at 12:02pm
I love this forum!  It is so helpful in solving problems.  I sanitized the Pod when I de-wintered.  However, I did not think of checking the hoses or replacing the filters.  I will do both and also flush out the system again.  The material is definitely plastic as it is stretchable.  It may well be a filter that is decomposing.

I'll let you know the outcome.


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Posted By: marwayne
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2018 at 12:30pm
It's funny, I'm going into season 8. I winterize, dewinterize, sanitize check the filter at the pump. I have never ever had a speck of debris in the filter by the pump. So maybe it has something to do with the dealer, they told at the walk through that they flushed the tanks and the lines and cleaned out the filter and aerator. 

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Posted By: CharlieM
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2018 at 12:41pm
Originally posted by furpod


While I grew up drinking from water hoses, now days, they are all made in China out of who knows what.. so I don't do it anymore. 

Charlie's Third Law: China=Cheap=Crap. Think baby milk, wallboard, petfood, etc.


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Northern Colorado
OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD
PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD


Posted By: Our pod
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2018 at 1:08pm
Lead has often been mixed with vinyl to make vinyl more flexible. Lead will leach from the vinyl. Lead exposure is known to result in lowered intelligence and increased violence. Use a hose made for potable water.

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Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2018 at 1:40pm
I have noticed that a lot of things made over there seem to end up with lead in them. I don't know if it's intentional or accidental, or a side effect of where things are made. I'm not judging, because they probably use a lot of the same things there, so there just may not be very good controls WRT lead.

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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2018 at 6:29pm
I bought the cheapest hose I could find in Home Depot.  It's made in the USA.  Surprisingly, there are still a lot of plastic products made here.

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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: Leo B
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2018 at 7:20pm
Charlie, you should post Charlie's law................  LOL priceless!!

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Leo & Melissa Bachand
2017 Ford F150
2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk
Previously owned
2015 Rpod 179
2010 Rpod 171


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2018 at 8:52pm
Originally posted by lostagain

I bought the cheapest hose I could find in Home Depot.  It's made in the USA.  Surprisingly, there are still a lot of plastic products made here.

If it does not state specifically that it is drinking water safe, then it is questionable. I would not use it. Whether you do is up to you. Made in USA is not a guarantee of safe for drinking. See this link:

http://saferchemicals.org/newsroom/new-study-rates-best-and-worst-garden-hoses/ - http://saferchemicals.org/newsroom/new-study-rates-best-and-worst-garden-hoses/


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Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 18 May 2018 at 6:19pm
I've been drinking out of hoses for nearly 70 years and I ain't died yet.  Yes, if you leave the water sitting in a hose it gets warm and tastes lousy, so run it until it's nice and cool and doesn't smell like the hose.  If the water is going to sit, like when you're hooked to city water, that's a hose of a different color.

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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 18 May 2018 at 6:42pm
Originally posted by lostagain

I've been drinking out of hoses for nearly 70 years and I ain't died yet.  Yes, if you leave the water sitting in a hose it gets warm and tastes lousy, so run it until it's nice and cool and doesn't smell like the hose.  If the water is going to sit, like when you're hooked to city water, that's a hose of a different color.
The lousy taste comes from the plastic/rubber and other components that the hose is made of. Your tongue is trying to tell you something.


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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 18 May 2018 at 6:58pm
Potable versus Palatable. If you use a municipal water source, it is treated. I get a kick out of folks who sanitize. Did you not think you were running sanitized water in your system? Are you using creek water maybe rain water, bottom line is it's treated water unless otherwise labeled. More chemicals than a cup of bleach in a 30 gal tank.

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 18 May 2018 at 7:15pm
Yes, GlueGuy, I know it comes from the plastic from which the hose is made.  That's precisely why I always have run the water until the odor and bad taste is long gone.  Though no one has measured it, free running water doesn't likely have enough bad stuff to hurt you any more than the plastic catsup bottle that has nice acidic tomato juice eating the sides away.  If it was really all that dangerous, with millions and millions of people drinking from all sorts of hoses world wide, there would be an effort to put CA prop 61 warnings onto the body of every hose.  In the grand scheme, there are plenty of other things to worry about that will kill you before garden hose water.

By the way, I think it is more likely your nose telling you it smells and tastes bad, unless it's bitter, sour, salty, or sweet.  Thankfully, our noses have saved human kind from many pathogens. 


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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: Ghosthawk
Date Posted: 19 May 2018 at 7:05am
Almost 2 years ago my wife and I happened to see a Primos Water system at our local Lowes.

Delivers hot or cold water at the touch of a button. Has one of those big 5 gallon plastic water bottles sitting on top to supply the water.

Well I am ok with spending 100$ for convenience. But I truly hate being anyone's cash cow.
So a 14$ home filter kit from Amazon that came with 2 carbon filters, some inovative plumbing and the system is mounted to the wall in laundry room next to sump pump. First trial, water tasted like hose.

Hmmm, ok, lets try a newer better piece of hose for the water connection. Better but still not perfect.

Hey, sump pit and pump is right here, lets flush it.

Well it got plumbed in where it got plumbed in, in part because there is a line feeding an outside hose there. In part because before that was a faucett with hose adapter that used to feed a pet waterer.  And in part because before all of it is a ball valve.

Walk downstairs with empty jug. Crank ball valve, (water filter output goes into a pipe whichs goes direct to sump) wait to hear sump pump run.  Put pipe in jug, fill.

No taste, no problems, no cost. Minor amounts of plumbing parts needed.
Momma has cold water on tap all day as she needs. Dad has hot water for coffee and tea without waiting.

Just have not figured where I can find the space to put it in the pod.



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