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Topic: Craigs List- Heads Up
Posted By: mcarter
Subject: Craigs List- Heads Up
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 5:59pm
Just had another incident of a person selling something on Craig's List shot and killed. This guy was a former police officer selling a late model Camaro and had agreed to meet at a county location, a gas station. Some thugs out of Nashville shot him and stole the car. Criminals will pick an easy mark, not the first time this has happened. Craig's list doesn't have enough parameters to keep you safe.

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."



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Posted By: Tars Tarkas
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 6:12pm
There was another Craigslist story a couple of weeks ago about a guy selling a camera, somewhere in or around Nashville.  The buyer took the camera and drove off without paying.  The seller chased him and ended up getting shot.  I hope these stories are more about Craigslist than about Nashville.

I've had good experiences with Craigslist.  So far....

TT


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2010 176
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Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 6:22pm
Be careful.

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 7:01pm
What people are doing for Craigslist are http://www.safetradestations.com/ - Safe Trade Stations . A safe place to go to trade with someone you don't know.

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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 7:04pm
Any classified ad sale presents risks.  Since Craigslist is the biggest our there, it is necessarily going to have more incidents.  Though I've purchased and sold a number of things on Craigs list and have never had a problem, I always try to be cautious.  For small stuff, it's probably better to meet inside a public place such as a bank, a restaurant, or best yet a police station [though I doubt they'd be very accommodating].  For stuff that is registered with the state, such as a vehicle, my practice is to settle the actual transaction inside a bank.  That way you can either receive or have issued a cashier's check without fear of forgery or someone grabbing it and running like they can with cash, there is plenty of space to sit and sign title documents and such and there is minimal risk that the buyer/seller can do something strange.  



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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 9:56pm
I fell for a scam for a Casita listing on Craigslist. That is how I ended up with our RP-179. My wife and I are much happier with the R-Pod than we would have been with a Casita. Still, it was an expensive lesson in not falling for something that would seem to be a good deal without some means of verification and eyes-on. The so-called "escrow" was part of the scam.
The perpetrator(s) may laugh now, but there is a Judge before whom he/she/they will stand that won't accept the excuse that it was only a "rich American" who could afford it anyway.


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Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: Tars Tarkas
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 12:25am
I forgot earlier that I got my Pod on Craigslist.  I'm not defending CL, and I'm really sorry about your deal gone bad -- you posted details of it recently -- but there are good deals to be had. 

TT


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2010 176
FJ Cruiser


Posted By: TheBum
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 10:47am
I've only conducted one transaction on CL and it went smoothly. I sold my two Ryobi 2200 generators to raise cash toward the purchase of two Honda EU2000is. Appropriately, we met in a Home Depot parking lot during the day. I demonstrated that the generators ran before cash changed hands; I even plugged in a load.


Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 11:05am
The important thing to remember is..

Thousands and thousands of CL transactions happened the same day, and they all went fine and well.


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Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 4:10pm
Good point, Furpod. Not preaching paranoia, just being careful. Sure this guy with the car knew 1000 times this goes right. He was a police officer, so sure he was confident. He's dead now. Not about the 1000 rights, it's about the one wrong, if it's you. Last year the site passed 100 murders and there is an active site that tracks crime on Craig's List.

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 5:12pm
Life is full of risks and ultimately you have a 100% probability of death.  
  A few examples for risk of death in one's lifetime*: 
  Motor vehicle accident - 1 in 114.
  Air and Space Transport incidents - 1 in 9,821
  Contact with hornets, wasps, and bees - 1 in 63,225
  Firearms discharge - 1 in 6,905
  Lightening strike - 1 in 161,856
* source - National Safety Council.

Though common sense is needed for Craigslist interaction, just as it is needed when you go to the mall to buy a pair of shoes, it isn't likely that Craig's list poses any extraordinary risk that is disproportionate to other human activities.  

According to a an article in All Business, the chances of being involved in a crime related to Craigslist is 1 in 2,000,000.  That's almost as safe in riding in an elevator which is, last I checked, for receiving a treatable injury is about 1 in 3,000,000.  

Because of the electronic media, especially the internet, we are bombarded with information that we erroneously extrapolate to the point that we become afraid of our own shadows.

The solution:  Go out and enjoy life and don't worry about stuff so much.


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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: Tars Tarkas
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 5:44pm
Originally posted by lostagain

Because of the electronic media, especially the internet, we are bombarded with information that we erroneously extrapolate to the point that we become afraid of our own shadows.


Yeah.  Anyone remember when SkyLab was going to fall from space and no one knew where?  That was before the internet but it still got a lot of media coverage.  I had a neighbor out in the very rural country who was scared silly that it was going to land on her house and kill her.  Craig's List seems the same way. 

Still, dealing with anything of value, and the money involved, with someone you don't know would always call for a heightened level of caution.  And maybe this is just the internet talking too, but it sure seems like there are a lot more wacko nuts out there now than there used to be.

TT


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2010 176
FJ Cruiser


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 5:58pm
All good points, quiet here, THANKS

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: wooleeman
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 8:02pm
I have sold hundreds of items on CraigsList and purchased a few also.  For many years I have met individuals either at my home or if the item was small enough and they felt more comfortable I would meet them at a local Wendy's restaurant. Met a lot of nice people and had no instances where I felt uncomfortable. Take the proper precautions and you should be ok.

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2022 RP-202
2016 RP-179 (Sold 9/2020)
2014 Silverado Crew Cab. 6-1/2' Bed
Golden Retriever (DOB 6/16/2020)
English Bulldog (RIP 6/15/2020)


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 9:56pm
.... and if you offer something for sale and you get an email inquiry in which they offer to pay you asking price, sight unseen, by cashier's check and want it shipped to Texas or some other exotic place, hit the delete key.  The scam is they send you a cashier's check for too much and ask you to send a refund of the over payment, usually several hundred dollars, then you find out the cashier's check was a forgery.  

When you deal with Craigslist always remember:  There is no such thing as a free lunch.


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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost



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