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Topic: New R pod owner - Introduction
Posted By: jprithch2
Subject: New R pod owner - Introduction
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 10:07pm
Been enjoying this forum for a while and finally took the plunge.  My name is Jack.  Recently retired and just wanting to try something different.  Tent camped a lot in the past but ready to move up to glamping!

Just spent 2 nights in our new 180.

Had a great time and only 3 issues.

1.)  Neither of the 2 usb charging ports worked.  So I tried usb port on the radio and phone said it was charging but did not charge and by morning was dead.  Weird.

2.)  The legs for the awning would not lock into place when you closed the locking lever.  The only way I can see this happening is who ever showed this camper repeatedly raised and lower the legs without releasing levers... ether that or it is just plan defective.

3.)  The slide made a loud pop anytime you moved it in or out.  Turned out to be a vertical piece of trim that hung on the bottom and then would release.  Cutting off about 3/32 inch off bottom of the trim solved that problem,  but if only whoever nailed it on had placed all the way up it would have never hung at the bottom.

misc. stuff - picking up packet and found the year long FR warranty extension form was included.  The lady did mention the extended warranty they sold and there was place mat like thing sitting in front of me describing their extended warranty... but she only mentioned it and no hard sale.  Now I gotta decide if I want it.  I normally do not purchase extended warranties on anything...but these things are so cheaply made and looks like a million things that could go wrong.

Dealer included and installed torsion bar with ball and drop down included, weight distributing hitch,  a friction type sway bar, 7 pin bumper hookup, a 7 to 4 pin adapter so I can hook up my boat, a 50 to 30amp adapter,  and brake controller. They hard wired it from my battery (this is an older truck) and I was pleased to see they even installed inline fuses on the wires.  

We did purchase a surge protector, cover for the top vent, stair rug and bug screens for all openings.

Now we are trying to decide if we should buy the cover as we have no sheltered place to park.   Should we buy a cover?

Only pulled it about 6 miles with a top speed of 45 and it pulled well.  I asked several questions about axle weight limits, GVWR etc.  No one seemed concerned.  I can only assume that they are advised on what to install for each camper.  What they put on mine seems like over kill as the drop down hitch weighs at least 50 lbs, and if the torsion bars were any heavier I would not be able to push them up into sockets.  I struggle at one point to install torsion bars and could not get the chain link hooked as far down as they told me to do at the dealer. Finally used jack to raise everything and and easily hooked chain where dealer told me to hook it.  Problem solved.

I did notice that when I lowered jack w/o torsion bar the truck really bottomed out.  This did not happen with torsion bars.  Will measure distance between tires and body with and without camper soon.

Anyway, will have to return to dealer to have usb ports and awning leg issues fixed.

If you purchase one of these I suggest you try the little things yourself and make sure it all works.  Still haven't tried fridge, heater, shower, crapper, a.c., as we had no 30 amp hook up.  Fingers crossed.

Long story short - lots of fun, lots of features,  interior lights tooooo bright.   Permanent retinal damageWink

Jack



Replies:
Posted By: RockyMtns
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2017 at 4:56pm
What are you towing with? WD hitch and sway is really overkill on R-Pods


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2017 at 6:16pm
Originally posted by RockyMtns

What are you towing with? WD hitch and sway is really overkill on R-Pods
Probably should say "should be overkill". Actual need depends a lot on the vehicle and/or conditions. You think you don't need WDH or anti-sway until the day you are driving north in west Texas and one of those gusts hits you broadside. At that point it's a little late to add anti-sway.

But if you had it in the first place, you probably don't even notice it, and you just keep on toe-tapping to whatever is on the stereo. LOL


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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2017 at 6:24pm
I think you have to match your tow capabilities with your load, so you could need a WDH and a sway, or just a sway or neither. You need to be safe, and you need what makes you comfortable. That is different for all of us. It's based upon your set up. It's not overkill, depending upon tow vehicle and TT.

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: Leo B
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2017 at 6:35pm
+1 with Mike!

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Leo & Melissa Bachand
2017 Ford F150
2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk
Previously owned
2015 Rpod 179
2010 Rpod 171


Posted By: RockyMtns
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2017 at 6:41pm
negative, bumper pull trailers do not need sway, even in Texas... Tongue weight is what matters, sway control is only a bandaid. I'v seen too many people wreck their new travel trailers even with WD/sway/trailer brakes controls, all because they didn't have enough/proper tongue weight!! I used to operate a tow truck out here in CO and believe me we get plenty of wind. Semi trucks laying on their sides scatter our highways during heavy wind storms.

Stealerships will sell you a sway control hitch way before they tell you the real secret (if they even know it). I have driven all over the country with a 40' 10,000 ibs dry weight travel trailer and did not need sway control.. But I did have the correct tongue weight and the correct curb weight/wheelbase tow vehicle. Sway control only hide problems...  it's just like wearing a helmet on a motorcycle, it only allows your family to have an open casket at your funeral, it won't keep you safe. 

here is a great video about how important tongue weight it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2fkOVHAC8Q


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Heavy Duty Diesel Mechanic
PowerStroke Specialist
RP171 towed with 5th Gen 4Runner
Colorado Rockies Resident


Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2017 at 7:05pm
The awning legs do not lock intuitively. Look at the manual closely, or watch a youtube video. I used to have a link to the best video that showed it, but seem to have misplaced the link.. sorry.


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Posted By: jprithch2
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2017 at 11:52pm
thanks FP.

I called dealer today and tech said they were contrary and that if I came by he could show me how they worked.  He said other people had problems with this as well.  This is the one thing that I found no manual or instructions in the large packet they gave me.


Posted By: jprithch2
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2017 at 12:00am
Thanks Rocky,

Will weigh trailer tongue soon.  No long trips for awhile.

The heavy hitch and torsion bars should add plenty of extra tongue weight at least 100 pounds,  the tongue weight listed in the sales manual is 320 pounds (if I remember correctly) and the camper weight is around 3000 lbs.

Dealer did not charge me anything for the extra towing equipment.

jp


Posted By: jprithch2
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2017 at 12:03am
Thanks Mike,

My tv is a 1984 Chevy Silverado, 350 engine, 3 speed auto trans  with a receiver hitch mounted to the frame.  Short wheel base.

I read somewhere that short wheel base is less stable for towing.  Maybe this is why they gave me the 
extra equipment.

jp


Posted By: jprithch2
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2017 at 12:21am
Just watched youtube video on awning.  Who would have thought that you flip levers out to lock in place.  Demo Tim never mention that!

jp


Posted By: DavMar
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2017 at 5:33pm
Originally posted by jprithch2

thanks FP.

I called dealer today and tech said they were contrary and that if I came by he could show me how they worked.  He said other people had problems with this as well.  This is the one thing that I found no manual or instructions in the large packet they gave me.


Unfortunately your right they, FR, doesn't supply a manual for our Pods. I emailed the FR service representatives for the R-pod and they sent me a generic manual. Oh well something is better then nothing I figure. Strange, that your usb charging ports didn't work, unfortunately for some reason a wiring diagram that you can use to help you track down any electrical problems is like top secret since I could never get one from FR. Go figure? The first time I used the usb charging port on our 180 when I went to unplug the device I was charging the plug popped off the wall! Was able to fix it myself but still shows a lack of quality control at the factory and stupidity with just using two sheet metal screws to anchor into thin wood paneling.




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Dave & Marlene J with Zoey the
wonder dog.
2017 Rpod 180
2016 Toyota Tacoma SR5 4x4
Lexington, NC


Posted By: jprithch2
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2017 at 9:41pm
yeah, I noticed the poor mounting as well.  In fact one of the screw holes is right at the edge of the main hole.  Won't be long before I all falls off.   I should just go ahead and epoxy it to the wall.


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2017 at 10:24pm
Originally posted by jprithch2

Thanks Mike,

My tv is a 1984 Chevy Silverado, 350 engine, 3 speed auto trans  with a receiver hitch mounted to the frame.  Short wheel base.

I read somewhere that short wheel base is less stable for towing.  Maybe this is why they gave me the 
extra equipment.

jp
A shorter wheelbase will be more sensitive to sway (in general). That vehicle should tow the R-pod just fine, but the age could be a factor. That vintage of 350 "probably" is around 200 HP (I'm just guessing, don't take my word for it). The 3-speed is a little short on speeds compared to newer vehicles that come with 4, 5, 6, 8, and even 10 speeds. Where the gears will make a difference will be in the mountains (and the HP of the engine too). 

What is your wheelbase? 10', 11', 12'? 

Any idea what the weight is? If it's over 5,000 lbs (I'm guessing it is), then it should be a fairly stable platform with an R-pod.


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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: jprithch2
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 11:13pm
Ok.  Got the usb ports charging now.  Tech found that the power wire was not properly crimped to ports.

On another note,  some of you were inquiring about my tv.

I am using a 1984 Chevy C10 with a 350 V8 engine.  Originally these were rated at around 200 hp.  The guy I bought this from was a race car driver and built the engine.  Not sure how many miles are on the engine.  He told me that it was close to 400 hp due to mods.... Electronic ignition, headers,  corvette heads, flow master exhausts, hypereutectic pistons.  He also installed a shift kit that extended the shift points so the gears wind out a little more than stock.  He used this truck to pull his race car but quit racing and sold truck.  There is also an auxiliary tranny cooler but it is small and no fan.  I will replace soon with a larger one that has fan attached.  I had the compression tested and all 8 cylinders were good and in range.  It does smoke a little on a start up and I think this is (hopefully) deteriorated valve guide seals. 

It runs great... but just to be sure, I had transmission serviced, all bearings repacked, differential grease replaced, new tires, new shocks, new power steering pump and hoses, new engine mounts, recently replaced radiator and hoses as well.

Wheel base is 10 feet.  It seems to pull fine and like i said earlier the dealer installed torsion bars, sway bar and a massive hitch that would accommodate the torsion bars and sway bar.  This set up adds at least 100 lbs to the tongue weight that is listed at 320 in the owners manual.    I have not weighed the truck but from internet research I am seeing that the truck weight is typically around 4000 lbs.  The weight of the 180 is 2662 lbs.  The gvwr rating of the truck is 5200 (I have little understanding of what this means even though I have done a lot of research).  Every one at the dealer said I should be able to pull with no problems but I got a feeling they say this to everyone just to sell campers.

I do hate that it is a 3 speed tranny, but can't afford an upgrade at this point.  It is a chevy 350 tranny.  My mechanic said he has never seen one of those come into the shop with problems.  

I do plan on putting as much weight into the truck rather than the rpod as I do feel the truck is a little on the light side.  Good idea?  Bad idea?
  
Taking it camping this weekend to make sure everything works.  Dealer told me not to run the a.c. or fridge on regular current as it could cause damage .... so have to go to campground for proper amps.
Just going to pull it about 20 miles down highway, no freeway yet.  I do worry cause this is an old truck, but we will see how she does.  I've had her about 10 years and never had any problems other that a rear wheel bearing that went out at one point and had to replace the carb a few years ago.

Any thoughts, insights, opinions regarding towing capabilities would be appreciated!

Jack


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2017 at 8:32am
I think you have done a good job of prepping the TV. The gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR), or gross vehicle mass (GVM) is the maximum operating weight/mass of a vehicle as specified by the manufacturer including the vehicle's chassis, body, engine, engine fluids, fuel, accessories, driver, passengers and cargo but excluding that of any trailers.

The wheelbase should be either 117" or 131", the 131 is the long wheelbase and should be preferred.

It appears you have added tow capacity, the trans is probably the weak point but they are stout, it would be nice to have that extra gear. A properly equipped 3rd Generation Chevy 1/2 ton could pull 8000 lbs with a braked trailer.. That is non-4WD. I towed a Bayliner overnighter with a 90 Chevy Suburban for years, with a 350 trans. The fact it was used to tow a car and trailer should be considered a plus, and you have added to the capacity.

I have run my trailer on a 120 house circuit with an extension cord and adapter, you are limited as most house circuits are 15/20 amps versus the 30 amp.

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: moseyman
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2017 at 9:06am
Congratulations on your 180.
We purchased our 180 earlier this yr.

The wall-mounted USB charger failed our first night out. I have since installed an Amazon.com replacement that incorporates a digital voltage meter.

The USB port in the radio is for input to the radio - not a true usb port - as I understand it.

Enjoy your new mobile vacation home.

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Moseyman & Miss Izzy

'06 Toyota Tacoma Double cab v6
'17 RPOD 180 'Serenity'


Posted By: jprithch2
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 10:34am
yeah,  I plugged into that usb on the radio and wondered why it was not charging phone.
j



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