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StephenH
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Topic: EV experience so far Posted: 13 Feb 2023 at 10:44am |
One BIG question with all of this "green" energy is what is going to be needed to decommission things like wind turbines, solar panels, lithium batteries, etc. when they reach the end of their useful life. On top of that, what will the cost of dealing with the environmental challenges that stem from mining Lithium, Cobalt, and other rare earth minerals needed to make these technologies possible? Given the "There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch" (TANSTAAFL) rule (Robert Heinlein), I expect that will not be insignificant.
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lostagain
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Feb 2023 at 2:02pm |
StephenH, I share your concerns. There is a YouTube program that delves into those issues called Just Have a Think. It is not sponsored by any companies, but instead through its viewers. The presenter, Dave Borlace, is not technical person himself, but does a very good job explaining stuff so a lay person can make sense of it. He's done segments on the concerns you expressed about things such as recycling lithium batteries, decommissioning wind turbines, and much more. Here's the link to the videos in general: https://www.youtube.com/@JustHaveaThink/videos
Hope you find it useful.
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David and Danette
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 Feb 2023 at 12:57pm |
I wonder how the popularity of EV's will effect gasoline prices in the future. I would think if there is less of a demand for gasoline the price for gasoline would come down. I am surprised how quickly EV's are becoming popular for those who can afford them. Someone I know who works in a Nissan engine factory and he said he is surprised, it's a lttle surprising to comprehend. And I thought I have read high voltage power lines may affect ones health who lives near them I don't know if there is any truth to that. But what if they discover a health risk to sitting in a vehicle near a high voltage battery.
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GlueGuy
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Feb 2023 at 11:05am |
I've been thinking about that as well. I think in the relatively short term, as the demand for gasoline goes down, the price for it will go down as well. That means that it could dampen the demand for EVs. So it will be an interesting dynamic for sure. Personally, I think that the fear about the magnetism over high voltage lines is overhyped. I will say that the buzzing sound is pretty annoying. I wouldn't want to live near them for that and the appearance. The other issue is the hazard of when/if the lines come down in a major weather event.
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lostagain
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Feb 2023 at 3:06pm |
Constant buzzing sounds drive me crazy.
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GlueGuy
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 19 Feb 2023 at 10:46am |
As it happens, very long transmission lines are slowly switching over to DC instead of AC. It requires long distance, and super high voltages; as in millions of volts. This has recently become more practical because of extremely large and high capacity valves (AKA diodes). Transmitting DC would mean no buzzing.
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