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    Posted: 31 Aug 2021 at 4:43pm
another look at the tire after the lift.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Sep 2021 at 2:39pm
That lift (structural tubing) is stronger than the original frame tubing.  It's stronger than the lift kit offered by forest river. You will not have any issue with that. If i were going to critique their work, I would have asked them to put a round stand off the same length as the inside dimension of the walls, to prevent the slight "sucking in " where the bolts go thru. If I may be so bold. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Sep 2021 at 4:13pm
The issue isn't the lift kit, that's fine. It's the rpod frame itself that is at risk of getting bent. A longer lift kit that is bolted to the frame farther from the axle fore and aft would reduce the stress on it by spreading out the load.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 10:33am
I like what you did, but in researching the lift for our 195 I am going with a longer tube. It only makes sense that FR touting the Hood River Edition as an off road unit should put this on at the factory. The only complaint I have is exactly what you have overcome with the tank drains so low.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 3:37pm
Roughly speaking if you double the length of the lift kit tube youree reduce the point load on the frame.e by half. Not quite true, the frame load drops off faster forward of the axle than behind it, plus the stress on the frame is worse at the rear of the lift to begin with.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 4:24pm
I agree on lengthing the lift kit tube. I asked, but got shorter tubes from the shop that installed them. Issue is getting inside to attach bolts where the connect to the axle supports.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 4:31pm
It is also worth noting the the L-shaped flange attached to the frame is the same length as the tube. You can see that looking closely at the photo. You would need to lengthen that flange or add some metal further along the frame if you lengthened the lift kit tubing. All of that is possible, but adds to the cost and could impact other components along the frame.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 6:28pm
Yes, you need attachments to be out at the ends of the risers. Or probably easier and more secure would be to use some steel plate as webbing and Tek screws to attach one tube under the other, then attach the axle to the lower tube. I don't think that would cause any issues as long as there was access. Possibly the risers tube could be welded to the frame lbut someone with experience welding in proximity to wood would need to comment on the likelihood of damaging the floor.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Sep 2021 at 1:08pm
Although I agree making the lift longer would probably, though not definitely, spread the weight out more. (increased length w/ still only two clamping areas, located at the same position as the shorter one) I don't see why you should need more contact surface area, than the original set up has. Lifting it has the exact same two contact points as an unlifted unit.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Sep 2021 at 2:30pm
It's not the vertical load, that doesn't change with the lift kit. it's the torsional moment that's the issue. The torsion axle twists the frame. By adding the lift kit you increase that if you hit a pothole which pushes the wheel back as well as up.

Look at the FEA modeling in this link:

Torsion axle model

One of the bad things about torsion axles. We've had at least one rpod frame fail at that high stress point.

By spreading out the attachment points you reduce the stress on the frame because you can create the same resisting moment with lower force on the attachment points (moment or torque equals force x distance).

Hope that makes sense.

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