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    Posted: 05 Aug 2018 at 8:15am
Originally posted by mcarter

I guess the demand is driven by geographics. When I lived in AZ it was not unusual to have 100 degree nights. In TN, AL, KY I can't recall the last time I used AC at night. I also have owned multiple RVs and I guess just got accustomed they are loud. During the day we run the AC for the dog, but we're not inside, we're out and about:) We have an additional fan and I grew up in the pre AC generation. Good discussion.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Keith-N-Dar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Aug 2018 at 9:38am
Seems to me that those who live in the majority of the country have on a number of occasions have been grateful for the capacity of the current AC.  Others who live in cooler climates have decided to do without AC.  It is what it is. 

FWIW slowing down the blower motor can cause the coil to freeze.  Then you have reduced noise and no cooling until the coil thaws out again.  "Solving" one problem may very well cause another one.
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"FWIW slowing down the blower motor can cause the coil to freeze."
Thanks Keith-N-Dar that answer makes sense to me. 
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See page 1, the 2nd post. While inspecting for loose, dirty parts is always a good idea, with the small space of the RPods and the fact that they are direct and not ducted vent means that the AC will be loud. Step outside and listen. I think you will find that the AC unit itself is pretty quiet. That means the sound problem is noisy, turbulent airflow inside the shroud. Making sure the pathway for the air to flow is clear of anything that could vibrate is good. Doing as I did and putting some closed-cell foam on the inside of the shroud also will help. The biggest thing that helps is closing that big main vent and letting the air flow through the ends and sides. I for one have appreciated the AC at night when we were in areas where the nighttime temperatures did not drop below 80 degrees, especially if there were any significant degree of humidity. In that case, setting the fan to run on low speed to have a constant cover noise helps.

Of course, during the day, running the fan on high or letting the Auto setting set the speed works. I have not had any indication of the coil freezing in all the time we have had our RPod and run the AC.
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Then you got a blast of cold air on you when you are trying to use the kitchen area.  women don't like that.  Probably the best solution for adding an AC unit would be to mount the smallest split system you can find in the R-Pod.  The outdoor unit can be mounted to the tongue and the indoor unit mounted at the top of the curve in the front. A Quiet Start capacitor would also probably help for when the compressor kicks in.
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When I measured things a couple of years ago the 9000 btu/he Pioneer mini split evaporator would fit on the side wall above the bed on the driver's side of my 179. I wouldn't try to mount one to the curved wall. The most efficient minisplits are 240Vac, and it's difficult to find an inverter in the 2kw range at that voltage, so there are limited options in high efficiency minisplits available at 120Vac.

The condensing unit could indeed go on the tongue where the battery boxes are. Some kind of removable cover would be needed to protect it from road debris. The propane tank would need to move forward a couple inches and would just clear the manual tongue jack. The batteries would be replaced by Li ones under the bed area. The refrigerant lines would extend forward from the evaporator and run down along the front left corner wall. There is a kit available to conceal them.

Overall removal of the roof mounted a/c and lead acid batteries and installation of 5kw of Li batteries, the minisplit, and a 2kw inverter to run it resulted in a sightly lower weight, with a significant tongue weight reduction, which is good in a 179. The entire roof area is freed up for solar as well if you take the opportunity to remove the TV antenna and spoiler. You can get about 1.5kw of solar up there which when combined with 5kwh batteries should give you around half a day a/c operation every 24 hours. The solar array would result in a net increase in trailer weight of around 200 lbs or so for the whole project.

I would suggest configuring the DC system at 24V and using a small DC to DC converter to operate the 12V loads. There is a significant efficiency gain and copper weight reduction at 24V.

The biggest concern I had with this project and what stopped me from proceeding was the risk of line leakage due to over the road vibration. The minisplits aren't designed for use in RV's and there are mixed reports on how well they hold up to vibration. There are fine details in how the line sets are installed that can reduce those stresses, and a good HVAC tech (which I'm not) will know what those are.

So I just stuck with the crappy Dometic roof a/c which is much better at making decibels than btu's but if someone with access to a good HVAC tech with minisplit experience wants to try it I'd be happy to help with the design as I'd really like to know how well a mini split will hold up long term on a TT.
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There are several articles online where people have installed mini splits on their campers.  They use the 120v versions.  One solution for vibration is a flexible hose.  Another would be to simply put a vibration loop in the tubing.  That would also take care of expansion and contraction.  Putting the outdoor unit on the tongue would take care of most of the vibration, mounted to the bumper is too springy unless there is some really good bracing.   The hardest part is threading the lines, I have installed a mini split with 3 indoor units, and connecting them at the wall is a real pain.  The solution there is to pull the lines through the wall and get a good amount of slack, connect them and then push the lines into the wall prior to connecting to the outdoor unit. It definitely takes 2 people, someone on the inside needs to hold the indoor unit while the person outside bends and configures the lines.  A big advantage is getting heating and cooling from the mini split.  That eliminates any need for the RV furnace, which can be removed. 
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You can have vibration damage internally in the evaporator or condenser as well as in the line sets. Also, the flex connectors can have leakage problems of their own. So it's worth making the connection details as vibration proof as possible but that is no guarantee of long term success.

As for getting rid of the furnace, that would only make sense if you weren't boondocking. There wouldn't be enough energy available for the heat pump. But if you're not boondocking an electric space heater would also work fine. There's not a compelling reason to change to a minisplit if you have shore power, at least not to me.
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i live in florida, had to replace mine could not sleep. replaced with a coleman 9,000 btu works great.
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