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Irish Tom 
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Joined: 27 Jul 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 24 |
 Topic: Partially filling fresh waterPosted: 01 Mar 2017 at 9:51am |
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I have a 178 and do not carry water.
The water tank is on the tail end of the pod. Tried to carry water and virtually had NO tongue weight which made towing unstable. Never again, travel with tank empty. Irish Tom 2015 178 Rpod 2014 Ford Explorer
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Hayduke
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Joined: 03 Apr 2012 Location: Salt Lake, UT Online Status: Offline Posts: 68 |
Posted: 01 Mar 2017 at 9:14am |
In order for two loads of the same mass to apply equal force to a lever, they must be equidistant from the fulcrum. Yes, having a full water tank behind the axle when unload some tongue weight. But the water tank is closer to the axle than the hitch, so it adds less force to the lever. |
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2012 177 HRE
2017 Tacoma Double Cab |
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mcarter
podders Helping podders - pHp 
Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Location: Greenbrier, TN Online Status: Offline Posts: 3419 |
Posted: 27 Feb 2017 at 4:31pm |
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Bum, thanks, is the tank on a 179/180 close to the axle. On the 178, the tank is the last thing on the aft of the trailer (behind the gray water tank), with the pass through above and behind it.
If interested - the post on tank issues is from JUL 2014, posted by CasaJack, named Water Tank Beams. I do not know if FR has addressed, maybe a new owner can comment. My 2015 178 had the issue as described, I added new 1 1/2 #14 screws and a bolt thru the frame at each support beam. |
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Mike Carter
2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
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TheBum
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Joined: 26 Feb 2016 Location: Texas Online Status: Offline Posts: 1407 |
Posted: 27 Feb 2017 at 1:19pm |
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On the 179 and probably 180, the fresh water tank is forward of the axle, so it adds to tongue weight.
As for drinking from plastic bottles frozen or exposed to heat, that really only applies to #1 plastics. You'll notice if you buy reusable plastic microwave cookware that they're almost always made of #5 plastic, which doesn't have the chemicals that leach out of #1 plastic. |
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mcarter
podders Helping podders - pHp
Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Location: Greenbrier, TN Online Status: Offline Posts: 3419 |
Posted: 27 Feb 2017 at 12:25pm |
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Two comments, largely based on previous posts. Freshwater tank capacity is 36 gals. That is roughly close to 300 lbs. That weight negates tongue weight. The aft water tank is on the other side of the axle, the fulcrum. It is possible to decrease tongue weight to the point where sway is significantly increased. From my experience there is a larger amount of sway with full water tank and no sway control. I don't tow without sway control, so for all purposes I can cover the weight. Comment 2 - I urge you if you haven't to inspect your tank holding crossbars. The unwelded ones are held on by #14 sheet metal screws. Some have found these screws to be pulling out or missing. Tanks have fallen out of TTs. Also make sure your securing cross bracket goes all the way to the frame rail, not screwed on with a gap. Some of us have bolted out brackets thru the frame, eliminating the screw loosening issue. Thanks.
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Mike Carter
2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
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voisj
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Joined: 19 Jul 2016 Location: San Luis Obispo Online Status: Offline Posts: 471 |
Posted: 27 Feb 2017 at 11:33am |
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Here's a 6 gallon water can that is bpa free and only $14 at online, (+$6 shipping). The handles look good and would work for easy pouring. I don't see an air vent though which makes a huge difference when your holding 50lbs.
http://www.tooltopia.com/null-mwc6700.aspx?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=paid_search_google_pla&scid=scplpMWC6700&sc_intid=MWC6700&gclid=CjwKEAiAuc_FBRD7_JCM3NSY92wSJABbVoxBCLEbZaC7UB2c6WKBl9itq9FlxpLUhc-Xotg0cwtDzBoCdx3w_wcB
I don't cook with or drink water from the fresh water tank, but i do understand potable water containers are a better option. My LC 2 is left empty until I travel and then keep out of the sun under a shell in the back of my truck while traveling, Long term storage freezing and/or storage in the sun could be an issue. From the study i just read, " If you are using a plastic water bottle, you should avoid drinking from any that have been frozen and/or exposed to sunlight or high temperatures". |
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TheBum
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Joined: 26 Feb 2016 Location: Texas Online Status: Offline Posts: 1407 |
Posted: 27 Feb 2017 at 10:09am |
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I use one of these upstream of the water filter.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058EOC5M/ There's so little water contact with plastic that any chemicals that might leech into the water would be insignificant. |
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GlibGuy
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Joined: 14 Apr 2015 Location: Virginia Online Status: Offline Posts: 65 |
Posted: 27 Feb 2017 at 8:27am |
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Thanks for all the good posts. I plunged ahead and ordered the "LC" 5 gallon jug with hose from MotoSport. I may order another if I'm happy with their product
As far as whether the product keeps water potable, I usually camp alone and carry water separately for drinking, cooking (don't do much) and personal hygiene (other than showers). Great folks on this forum!
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MICK
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jato
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Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Kewadin, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 3227 |
Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 3:09pm |
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If we do a short weekend trip we bring 10 gallons of well water with us. Yes, we did the math, takes 40 seconds to fill a 5 gallon bucket so. . . . . put the hose in the hose filler and let it run for 80 seconds and we are done. Longer trips we always fill to the max before leaving. Rather not have to put city/ municipal water in our tanks, don't care for the taste or the chemicals in them. Actually we have always had well water in our tanks and on the advice of furpod did indeed sanitize our tanks for the first time last year after owning our 177 for 5 years.
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God's pod
'11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
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StephenH
podders Helping podders - pHp
Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6291 |
Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 2:03pm |
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The only problem I see is that these are not made for potable water. That means that they might leach chemicals into the water. I would prefer one that is made for potable water. On our winter trip, we used this one which we got at our local Wal-Mart:
Reliance Products Hydroller 8 Gallon wheeled water container The local store price may be higher than the online price. With the proper fittings, this could be adapted to a hose which could then be used to fill the R-Pod's tank. |
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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