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    Posted: 01 Aug 2017 at 5:48pm
It sounds funny to me. But if i'm reading this right, i suspect the 30 amp plug your plugging into is bad. Plugging into your car will not, no way run the A/C.  So I assume you were making a mistake on that. As stated by a few, there are 2 diff power systems in the pod. one is 12V (battery) and one 120 volt ac system, that is like at home. I would have the 30 amp at home checked 

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Dear Bill-J.  I too want an awning for my 180 slide out.  

Can you give me the awning particulars?  It would be greatly appreciated.

Interesting.  It seems to me that after the dealer sold me my POD that they no longer knew me.

I like my pod; however, If I had it to do over again, I don't think I would.
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Just an update.  Forest River nor the dealer will DO ANYTHING so I finally just washed my hands of them both and took it to another RV repair shop recommended to me.

SURPRISE.  They do what you ask them to do, they fix what is wrong with no argument and they are nice, friendly, and helpful AND they are less expensive that FR and the dealer.

Example Just after I bought the 180 I ask the dealer for a price to put a retractable awning on the slide to keep the leaves, etc off.  They gave me a price.  (this was when I still held hope that the dealer was interested in me).  When I got around to having it installed I used my new RV shop... same awning, same 180 but over $100 cheaper and it works the first time..... 'Nuf said.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Feb 2017 at 9:25pm
Yes, I could remove all the devices and trace the wiring out but I refuse to allow them to expect the customer either accept their screwed up mess or be forced to do it myself.

Now, I do have the knowledge, experience, and tools to take the damn thing apart and trace every wire but the customer should not have to do that.  I'll probably end up doing it just to get it right but at my age crawling on the floor, taking things apart, etc. is not what I need to be doing.
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Originally posted by furpod

[QUOTE=Bill-J]You know I think you are correct. Except one question then.  

I have ask both Forest River and PaulsboRV for a wiring diagram and/or a schematic of the trailer and get absolutely no response.

C) FR won't give up any wiring schematics to ANYONE. Don't take it personal. If you are good with a multimeter.. heck, even if all you know to do is trace a circuit with one, all you need to know is right there in the pod. It isn't like a house or car with hundreds of circuits and miles of wire.

It's not that FR won't give out an electrical schematic, they can't. It doesn't exist. "Let no two Pods be built the same" - FR
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Feb 2017 at 3:36pm
It is a brand new 2017 RB180 purchased on Oct 22, 2017 .  

The service rep told me that Forest River WILL void the warranty.  After really getting hot (about the whole mess not just this)  I was passed on to the person who is the Service Manager for all 5 PoulsboRV service facilities.  I ask him about this, among other things, and he said that what I had been told was correct.  So if I have a warranty problem FR could, not would, void the electrical part of the warranty.

I am finding that Forest River has refused pretty much all of the things that have gone wrong with this unit.  I think my unit must have been built on a Thursday afternoon at 3pm before a 4 day holiday and my 180 had to get finished before they could go home.  

The manager is taking my complains to FR personally to see what "he can do for me."

Granted there is nothing on the list that I cannot fix myself but I am really p...ed that ANY company would sell a unit like the one we got....  The problems I am having are pure FR crap construction and junk material and parts.

After the manger gets his answer and see what he does I will make a post of all the problems and what was and was not fixed.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Feb 2017 at 2:49pm
Originally posted by Bill-J

You know I think you are correct. Except one question then.  

Under the seat behind the AC & DC panels where the + battery lead exits the floor there is  one of the 15 amp(?) series mounted breakers screwed to the floor behind the panel.  This breaker is in the battery cable before the panel.  There are two wires connected on the panel side.  One goes on to the panel and goes to the +12VDC input terminal on the distribution panel. (This inline breaker functions as the main breaker for the distribution panel although you cannot turn it off.  It would just operate on a overload or short circuit BUT will automatically reset.)  The second wire goes back under the floor to somewhere.  I disconnected the wire and it has about 10ma constant load.  This wire does not go through the panel as it is, in practice, connected to the 12VDC battery.

I would sure like to know what that wire is.  I have asked the techs at PoulsboRV and they do not know and just blew me off.  

I have ask both Forest River and PaulsboRV for a wiring diagram and/or a schematic of the trailer and get absolutely no response.

One other point.  I am mounting a disconnect switch (marine grade with positions: Batt 1, Batt 2, Both, Off) and adding a second battery.  

I mounted the switch, right where you come in the door so it is easy to get to.  Anyway I mounted the switch and wired it in the 12V battery lead (before the panel).  All well and good, and except for the unknown red wire, becomes the battery disconnect switch. 

When the PaulsboRV service rep saw the switch and the one wire that I had connected he just looked at me and said, "This totally voids the warranty for the electrical system."

Now that is real service.  Fixing the FR problem will void the warranty on the elect system.


A) what year and floor plan?

B) the only way FR will void the warranty is if they (FR) believes or proves a electrical issue is caused by your modification. You have a dealer issue, not an FR issue. LOTS of podders have installed cutoff switches. None that I am aware of has had any issues with warranty work if needed.

C) FR won't give up any wiring schematics to ANYONE. Don't take it personal. If you are good with a multimeter.. heck, even if all you know to do is trace a circuit with one, all you need to know is right there in the pod. It isn't like a house or car with hundreds of circuits and miles of wire.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Feb 2017 at 1:43pm
You know I think you are correct. Except one question then.  

Under the seat behind the AC & DC panels where the + battery lead exits the floor there is  one of the 15 amp(?) series mounted breakers screwed to the floor behind the panel.  This breaker is in the battery cable before the panel.  There are two wires connected on the panel side.  One goes on to the panel and goes to the +12VDC input terminal on the distribution panel. (This inline breaker functions as the main breaker for the distribution panel although you cannot turn it off.  It would just operate on a overload or short circuit BUT will automatically reset.)  The second wire goes back under the floor to somewhere.  I disconnected the wire and it has about 10ma constant load.  This wire does not go through the panel as it is, in practice, connected to the 12VDC battery.

I would sure like to know what that wire is.  I have asked the techs at PoulsboRV and they do not know and just blew me off.  

I have ask both Forest River and PaulsboRV for a wiring diagram and/or a schematic of the trailer and get absolutely no response.

One other point.  I am mounting a disconnect switch (marine grade with positions: Batt 1, Batt 2, Both, Off) and adding a second battery.  

I mounted the switch, right where you come in the door so it is easy to get to.  Anyway I mounted the switch and wired it in the 12V battery lead (before the panel).  All well and good, and except for the unknown red wire, becomes the battery disconnect switch. 

When the PaulsboRV service rep saw the switch and the one wire that I had connected he just looked at me and said, "This totally voids the warranty for the electrical system."

Now that is real service.  Fixing the FR problem will void the warranty on the elect system.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Feb 2017 at 12:48pm
Originally posted by Bill-J

Well for one thing there is a CONSTANT battery drain on the system due to things connected to the battery directly that the ONLY way you can stop it is to disconnect the battery.  None of these loads are fed from the distribution panel.  Very poor design.  Welcome to FR.




Actually. NO.

Having disassembled reassembled various parts of several R-Pods and several other trailers. ALL the phantom loads come from the distribution box. There is nothing tapped into the wires between the batteries and the distro box. The general phantom loads people have are the propane detector, the entertainment center and television if 12v, and often they leave the antenna booster on. ALL of those are fused, as is every other 12v circuit in every pod I have worked on.. and it's honestly probably more than anyone not at the factory. On OUR pod we had a couple other constant loads, due to mods we added. A battery disconnect takes care of the issue.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Feb 2017 at 11:50am
Well for one thing there is a CONSTANT battery drain on the system due to things connected to the battery directly that the ONLY way you can stop it is to disconnect the battery.  None of these loads are fed from the distribution panel.  Very poor design.  Welcome to FR.


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