Can the stabilizer jacks support the full weight? |
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fwunder
Senior Member Joined: 04 Oct 2013 Location: New Jersey Online Status: Offline Posts: 1676 |
Topic: Can the stabilizer jacks support the full weight? Posted: 29 Apr 2015 at 11:52am |
I don't believe the jacks by themselves are the only issue. Sure you could lift the trailer by the existing or any number of other (some very expensive) jacks, but the rPod frame is not designed to be lifted by the corners - only the axle connection points. A bent rPod frame would not be a good thing.
fred
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techntrek
Admin Group - pHp Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9059 |
Posted: 29 Apr 2015 at 2:19pm |
There is a sticker on the corners of my Salem that clearly states not to lift the wheels using the stabs, and to only turn the handle 1/8 of a turn after taking up the slack. This is with a heavy steel frame that could handle being suspended at each corner, and beefy stabs that are heavier than the jacks I've received with some cars.
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Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ Pod instruction manual
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Webstas
Newbie Joined: 16 Jul 2014 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 28 |
Posted: 29 Apr 2015 at 2:49pm |
Has anyone actually bent their frame lifting with the stabilizers?
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fwunder
Senior Member Joined: 04 Oct 2013 Location: New Jersey Online Status: Offline Posts: 1676 |
Posted: 29 Apr 2015 at 3:59pm |
I thought religion and politics were best left to other venues. After finding the following thread I now see that leveling with stabilizers seems to be a religious argument. Personally, I find a 2x8 or Lynx Levelers to be an easy, cheap and safe solution.
fred
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2014 RPod 178 => MyMods and Buying Habits
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Tars Tarkas
Senior Member Joined: 14 Jan 2013 Location: Near Nashville Online Status: Offline Posts: 1446 |
Posted: 29 Apr 2015 at 8:15pm |
Some people seem to think that what the manufacturer says about things like this are just CYA boilerplate that they are comfortable ignoring. I figure the manufacturer knows something about what they are talking about. I know you can usually get away with exceeding stated limits, but the cost in money and in feeling like an absolute idiot if, in this case, you do manage to bend the frame is just more than I want to risk. Especially when it's so easy to level a pod without jacks (other than the tongue jack). Really, you might have to pull up and back up two or three or even four times, and you have to carry some short boards (that come in handy on hot asphalt or soft ground anyway) but to me, that's not much effort compared to the cost and effort dealing with heavier duty lifting jacks, that, coming full-circle, might bend your frame.
I had a friend who had a motor-home with remote control leveling jacks. He could sit in the driver's seat, twiddle some little toggle thingies while watching some bubbles until he had things where he wanted. I'm sure his ship had a heavier frame than an RPod. That was really nice, but that's not the way pods work. So, if it's your trailer, you can do what you want, but I don't care to chance it. TT |
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Leo B
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Posted: 30 Apr 2015 at 8:07am |
Well said Tars Tarkas!
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Leo & Melissa Bachand
2017 Ford F150 2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk Previously owned 2015 Rpod 179 2010 Rpod 171 |
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techntrek
Admin Group - pHp Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9059 |
Posted: 30 Apr 2015 at 12:44pm |
Ranks up there with discussions on light levels, music levels, and draining the water from coolers. I've seen some big blow-ups online for all of them.
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Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ Pod instruction manual
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fwunder
Senior Member Joined: 04 Oct 2013 Location: New Jersey Online Status: Offline Posts: 1676 |
Posted: 30 Apr 2015 at 1:04pm |
Everyone knows coolers stay colder with ice water! Jeesh! Problem is, when the ice melts, the cooler gets heavier and overflows with all that water! fred
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2014 RPod 178 => MyMods and Buying Habits
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Harper
Newbie Joined: 22 Dec 2013 Location: Iowa Online Status: Offline Posts: 15 |
Posted: 30 Apr 2015 at 6:06pm |
Me, I'm new here but I'm just amazed that they would build the lightest trailer that they could and then load it onto a frame that would stay stiff when bearing the weight on two points in the middle, but will fold if that same weight is suspended from four points in the corners.
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Tars Tarkas
Senior Member Joined: 14 Jan 2013 Location: Near Nashville Online Status: Offline Posts: 1446 |
Posted: 30 Apr 2015 at 9:02pm |
An 18 foot trailer with the weight on the wheels and braces under corners means you have 9 foot sections of frame that would each old up half the weight of the trailer. Take the support off the wheels away and you have an 18 foot span that has to hold up all of the weight. And consider that the waste tanks put most of their weight in the middle of that span. Anyway, the with the wheels firmly on the ground, you have 6 supports. Jacking up the corners means you only have 4.
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