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twday66
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Topic: Looking for A Replacement Posted: 14 Feb 2015 at 12:09am |
In May of 2013, I flew out to Oregon and bought a "like new condition" 2000 Winnebago Rialta and drove it home. That was pretty much the highpoint of our Rialta ownership. In October and newly retired, we headed west with big plans to travel the Southwest and the Pacific Coast. We made it to Carlsbad, NM and after six days snowed in our VW-based RV started to die. After struggling to Albuquerque and discovering that VW dealers are incapable of repairing VWs and nobody else either has the skills or desire to work on that German brand of junk, we limped into Truth or Consequences and I set about the task of becoming a VW Eurovan mechanic/electronic tech. Four months later, we were back on the road home. We escaped Rialta ownership with most of our investment, which was the next-best moment of Rialta "ownership." We spent this past summer getting ready to sell our home of the last 18 years, buying a massively downsized replacement home in Red Wing, MN, and trying to sort out ourselves so we can do the traveling thing again, sans VW. Since the camper portion of the Rialta was perfect for us, the R-Pod 179 looks like the hot setup. So, the minute the 2nd house sells, I'm going to be looking for a 179. Any tips, warnings, advice, or jokes would be greatly appreciated. The picture below was us in March, after I had the VW electronics sorted out and we made a tentative trip west of TorC to shake out the bugs and convince ourselves we might make it back home without having to buy a bus ticket.
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Leo B
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Posted: 14 Feb 2015 at 7:10am |
Welcome to the group! We have a 179 and really love it! It is easy to tow, has a lot of storage and has a comfortable amount of room. Good luck
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Leo & Melissa Bachand
2017 Ford F150
2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk
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2015 Rpod 179
2010 Rpod 171
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Victoria
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Posted: 14 Feb 2015 at 7:29am |
You could have been telling "our story." We bought a 2005 Rialta and had a very similar experience. Every outing required some sort of repair. The electrical system was a mystery to all! This being said we loved the layout. We too, sold ours and sat out for a while, but discovered we missed camping. Our 179 should be delivered in a few weeks. Having the Rialta and knowing how we "lived" in, it made selecting a TT easier. Hoping this adventure has less irritation and more relaxation! Welcome!
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Gary and Victoria
2015 RPod 179
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furpod
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Posted: 14 Feb 2015 at 8:48am |
As much as I love VW.. I have heard bad things about the Rialta for years.. Glad you got home, glad you didn't get soaked getting rid of it.
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Leo B
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Posted: 14 Feb 2015 at 9:35am |
My brother was a longtime Dodge mechanic and wanted a change of pace so he went to work at a VW/Audi dealership. He lasted about 9 months couldn't take it and switched back to Dodge!
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Leo & Melissa Bachand
2017 Ford F150
2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk
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2015 Rpod 179
2010 Rpod 171
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twday66
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Posted: 14 Feb 2015 at 12:52pm |
There is a little comfort in knowing "we're not the only ones." I belonged to a Yahoo! group of "full-timers" when we first started having problems with the Rialta. One member said the two best days of ownership were the day they bought it and the day they sold it. Since I put so much work (even SOOOOO much work) into getting ours ready to travel, then repairing it, the day we sold it was bittersweet. However, the only thing we've missed was the living quarters. Servicing a VW is a nightmare: no decent available manuals, the worst OEM customer service (nationally) in the industry, terrible quality control and haphazard engineering, and unreliable parts availability.
However, I'm an insanely engineering-oriented and anal record-keeper. Not counting 2 seconds of my labor, let alone the misery of crawling around under that sad vehicle in New Mexico goatheads, gravel, blowing sand, ice and snow, and on the side of the road in the middle of New Mexico nowhere, our cost of ownership was $2.03 a day and $0.10/mile for 9703 miles. The upside of the maintenance was that we were stuck in a place we came to love, Truth or Consequences, New Mexico, made some dear friends, and had a great time between cursing at all things VW/German. I think we escaped relatively unharmed. And, as you said, we learned what sort of camper we need.
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David and Danette
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Posted: 14 Feb 2015 at 2:55pm |
No offense to Germans, I have a German name and ancestors. But our family experience owning German made cars is that for some reason Germans have difficulty in understanding electricity. German made mechanical engines and machinery are among the best in the world. But electricity in my opinion seems to puzzle them. I guess that is why I recently had questions and needed help with the electrical system in our Vibe.
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2018 Vista Cruiser 19BFD (2018-
2012 Vibe 6503 (2014-2019)
2009 r-pod 171 (2009-2014)
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twday66
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Posted: 14 Feb 2015 at 3:03pm |
I've got a good bit of German in my genes, too. Even the mechanicals are suspect in too many VW vehicles. There was a spate of timing chain sprockets they "forgot" to properly harden on the 2.6L 6-cylinder motors, a problem VW simply ignored in spite of evidence they knew about the problems. VW assemblers are notorious for "forgetting" to completely seal windshields, allowing water to drip on to the poorly positioned and wire-prepped electronic controls on the inside of the firewall. Several independent mechanics have told me that the plastics VW/Mercedes uses "dissolve" in a few years, unlike Chinese and Japanese vehicle plastics. Usually, that indicates poor processing/cleaning tactics, but I won't have to know about it from here out.
In all, it was a painful but cheap lesson for me. I'm a motorcyclist and at 66 the day when I get off of two wheels for the last time is not that distant. My "plan," before the Rialta, was to trade the motorcycles for a new VW Beetle. Now, I wouldn't touch one of those disasters on wheels with your money. Since I'd have been looking at $30k for a new Beetle convertible, the Rialta saved me a lot of pain and suffering and a big dent in my retirement savings.
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johnandwendee
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Posted: 14 Feb 2015 at 6:39pm |
Hi twday66,
Sorry about your Rialta experience. We upgraded from a tent to a 24' 5er about eight years ago. The 5er was terrific. No more sleeping on the ground! We traded for a 179 last spring and love it. Less room of course but it works great for us. Get a big enough tow vehicle and watch out for bumps up or down when entering a gas station. Take them on a angle or you will bottom out. Our 179 is great!
John
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John and Wendee
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twday66
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Posted: 14 Feb 2015 at 7:16pm |
Thanks for the review. I looks like the older 175 is about the same camper as the 179? Am I missing something important in the layout?
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2014 R-POD 179
Nissan Frontier SE Supercab 4L 6-cyl, manual transmission
Yamaha WR250X & Suzuki V-Strom
Kayaks, canoes, bicycles, guitars, and a mobile recording rig all have to fit somewhere.
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