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dsmiths
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Topic: Towing with Ford Escape Posted: 31 Jul 2013 at 4:24pm |
Lot of good posts and experience with different models. I think one key issue is wheel base. The longer the t.v. the more stable. a Jeep CJ with a 4.0 in line 6 will pull the pod, but the short wheel base will be a factor during cross winds and semi's blowing past you at 75mph. My trailblazer has a long wheel base and weights 4200lbs. the 4.2 in line 6 puts out 295 HP at 6000 RPM. it like most modern cars is running at 1800 RPM at 60 MPH. I like the right lane and stay at 60mph on the flats and 45 to 55 up hills. If I have a long pull on a steep hill I will manually lock the tranny into 2nd or 3rd at hit a target RPM of around 3000 RPM, this will let me stay in the good torque range and keeps the temp down into the 210 range. I have never had an overheating problem pulling even with the temps at around 95 d/f. My t.v. has a towing package but I went ahead and added an external transmission cooler. the cooler is a heck of a lot cheaper than a tranny overhaul.
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Posted: 31 Jul 2013 at 2:04pm |
Originally posted by hogone
Sleepless: Not pure sarcasm, but maybe a little!!! Sorry, no harm intended. I guess I just have experience with the Escape 6 cyl/3.0 and as I mentioned, blew the tranny. It definately struggled, and by no means did I run it hard. It will pull it however. I guess once you have more power, it is a feeling of comfort and safety. |
hogone, thanks for the comments. I don't want to belabor talking about the Santa Fe, but most people don't realize that the "new" models like mine with the largest engine weight in at well over 4000 pounds. It has plenty of hp, great 0-60 acceleration, but it is light on torque at lower RPMs. Unfortunately, it turns 2000 RPM at 60 mph, while its hp is rated somewhere around 6300 RPM. The only complaint I have about it as a TV is we need more room for storage on our extended trips. With my wife and 3 small dogs, it becomes a little tight near the end of our trips. I have mentioned before that I am an old coot, and I have a few medical problems that sometimes affect my patience and moods. I don't want to get on the bad side of you or anyone else on the Forum. Bob
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Posted: 31 Jul 2013 at 10:25am |
I towed my 176 for one year with my Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. Hills weren't pleasant, but windy days were the worst. As Keith-n-Dar notes, drag is more important than weight, especially as speeds increase. On a trip to CO, I climbed Raton Pass from NM with my Jeep, which was a white-knuckle affair, but didn't last as long as a windy pull across the TX panhandle. I upgraded to a Ram 1500 (Hemi-powered) two years ago and I now tow in a much more relaxed state, though I still rarely tow above 60. That said, there were days when 55 felt like my Jeep was taking a beating.
If you're not in a hurry, and can deal with the stress (on you and your vehicle) of occasional hills and windy days, you may be ok with your V-6. I just got to the point where I felt like I was putting too much "hurt" on my Jeep. Of course, now my wife wants a bigger travel trailer. Should we make that decision, I hope it doesn't mean a 3/4 ton diesel is in my future!
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Posted: 31 Jul 2013 at 8:56am |
Originally posted by Sleepless
Originally posted by hogone
Are you pulling on that mountainous Florida terrain? Probably fine there, but anyone who tows with a small V6 will be sorry if going through any type of moutainous terrain. |
I don't know if that comment is pure sarcasm or a serious question. Actually, I have not camped in Florida since we sold our Class A motor home. Our trip to and from the Southwest was full of mountainous terrain and the Santa Fe performed like a champ. I don't consider a 274 hp engine a "small" V6. Now that we are towing a lighter trailer, our R-Pod, I expect the Santa Fe to perform even better on our next extended trip. Don't knock an intermediate sized SUV until you know how they perform.
I might add that in 2010 we were towing with a Triton V-10 and it was only rated at 310 hp. I do realize that torque does enter into the equation.
Bob
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That's good HP for your TV. That's the thing, our V6 is at the low end of HP and I feel that we suffer because of it. I would be much happier with what you have!
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Posted: 31 Jul 2013 at 8:45am |
Sleepless: Not pure sarcasm, but maybe a little!!! Sorry, no harm intended. I guess I just have experience with the Escape 6 cyl/3.0 and as I mentioned, blew the tranny. It definately struggled, and by no means did I run it hard. It will pull it however. I guess once you have more power, it is a feeling of comfort and safety.
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Posted: 30 Jul 2013 at 8:59pm |
Weight is not as much of a problem as drag is. Don't plan on running at 70 MPH. Keep it at 50-55 and you will be OK. Also, get a good hitch. You will need it with that light a TV.
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Posted: 30 Jul 2013 at 7:52pm |
Thanks for all the great advice. Based on what you all said, I am not afraid to buy one and tow with the Escape. I will limit my traveling to flat or minor hilly locations until i move up to bigger vehicle.
Thanks
See you out there
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Posted: 30 Jul 2013 at 7:01pm |
hogone, one reason we bought a 173 is because it does not have the extra weight inherent with those models that do have slides or are heavier due to being longer. Our R-Pod is the lightest hard-sided travel trailer we have ever owned, and is not much heavier than my fishing boat. And, as I mentioned earlier, a good part of efficient towing is attributable to driving habits. I don't think a 173 is really a good test of a TVs towing ability because of its relatively light weight.
Bob
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Posted: 30 Jul 2013 at 5:39pm |
We started with a Saturn View with the Honda V6 it had plenty of power in the Tennessee mountains but not sure of the horsepower or torque of the Ford V6. So I could have been wrong perhaps the Ford Escape would have enough power. I still think Outbound could give a reliable answer. David
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Sleepless
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Posted: 30 Jul 2013 at 5:25pm |
Originally posted by hogone
Are you pulling on that mountainous Florida terrain? Probably fine there, but anyone who tows with a small V6 will be sorry if going through any type of moutainous terrain. |
I don't know if that comment is pure sarcasm or a serious question. Actually, I have not camped in Florida since we sold our Class A motor home. Our trip to and from the Southwest was full of mountainous terrain and the Santa Fe performed like a champ. I don't consider a 274 hp engine a "small" V6. Now that we are towing a lighter trailer, our R-Pod, I expect the Santa Fe to perform even better on our next extended trip. Don't knock an intermediate sized SUV until you know how they perform. I might add that in 2010 we were towing with a Triton V-10 and it was only rated at 310 hp. I do realize that torque does enter into the equation. Bob
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