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StephenH 
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 Topic: BatteriesPosted: 11 Aug 2023 at 9:44pm |
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Some of them do have the ability to warm themselves. They use some of the battery's power to run a small heating plate. Mine has this specified in the manual.
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StephenH
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mjlrpod
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Posted: 11 Aug 2023 at 2:54pm |
Self heating?? I did not know there was such a thing. I did hear that lithium batteries should not be charged in below freezing temps, so I thought that they have to be removed in the winter. Is that not true? Would you have a recommendation? I mainly picked this cause I saw good reviews, and the additional 30 Ah over a 200 ah. This was my review search https://www.bestproductsreviews.com/lifepo4-lithium-batteries?targetid=dsa-19959388920&matchtype=&device=c&campaignid=14938899091&creative=552785546059&adgroupid=131352087307&feeditemid=&loc_physical_ms=9001778&loc_interest_ms=&network=g&devicemodel=&placement=&keyword=$&target=&aceid=&adposition=&trackid=us_all_top_1_1&mId=407-132-4411&trackOld=true&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuNemBhCBARIsADp74QSj0Tb0ZmwTm4Rjt6tjRtl8U0OGFMmU3rkihtkkbCPBIdSZPpmX6GYaApSQEALw_wcB |
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StephenH
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Posted: 11 Aug 2023 at 2:13pm |
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I'm going to take a neutral position on that one. I don't have any experience with the company. The specs look okay. You will need to have it in a somewhat controlled environment as I don't see anything about self-heating.
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StephenH
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mjlrpod
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Posted: 11 Aug 2023 at 12:47pm |
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I am going to go with Lifepo4 battery / batteries. I am not sure if it will be 1 or 2 of them, but 1 for sure. I am looking into the one I put the link below for. It's a LI Time 230 Ah lithium battery. Anybody have any idea if these are good / bad / or indifferent?? I think I might wait till black friday, since camp season is close enough to over.
https://www.litime.com/products/litime-12v-230ah-plus-lifepo4-battery-built-in-200a-bms-max-2944wh-energy?variant=43846095339740 |
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GlueGuy
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I did not think LFP batteries use any "rare earths" at all. Further more , they don't impose any fire hazard, and I might argue that they are safer than SLA batteries. These days, they are cost competitive with SLA batteries. They are lighter than SLA batteries (watt per watt). Finally, they can probably handle at 3 or 4 times as many charge/discharge cycles than SLA batteries.
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jato
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Posted: 23 Apr 2023 at 8:10pm |
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Gopokluda, I will not argue your point, it is obvious the LI battery is the hands down winner for versatility. Value? well I will still hold out on that one due to the above price/year on the current batteries owned. We do camp in colder weather and the ability to recharge LI is somewhat limited there IMHO. Also, since the FW tank is behind the axle (177) and is usually full or near so as we travel, the extra tongue weight is a necessity. The Trojan T-1275 (85 lbs.) and Interstate (45 lbs.) gives me just over the 11% tongue weight needed to give me peace while traveling down the road. Our tongue weight with batteries and both 20# propane tanks adds up to 340 lbs. 11% of the loaded 177 weight comes out to 323 lbs on the tongue.
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gpokluda
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Posted: 23 Apr 2023 at 6:27pm |
Where's Offgrid when you need him! There is no disputing your good fortune, Jato. That charmed 12 year old LA battery is legendary. Maybe it should have its own Facebook page  Last I looked, the lead acid battery was not the poster child of the environmental movement. All that aside, however, while an LA battery is a good, economical alternative in some applications, the LI batteries wins the award for ease of use and overall performance across the board. Add to that the ever decreasing footprint for the same amp/hr output at less than 50% weight, and the ability to securely place the batteries in the coach and the LI battery is the hands down winner for versatility and value.
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Gpokluda
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jato
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Posted: 23 Apr 2023 at 4:43pm |
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Going through battery expense so far after 12 years, I cannot justify the cost of lithium when looking at what has been spent so far with the old LA batteries, especially when looking at the expense of producing lithium and at the limited rare earth minerals needed to produce them. 3/2011 purchased 2 12v Interstate batteries (deep cycle) @ $ 50 each total $ 100 8/2020 retired 1 original of the above and replaced with Trojan T-1275 which gives 165 AH (incl. core exchange) total $ 210 Grand total spent after 12 years service ($ 310.00) which figures out to a yearly expense after 12 years of $ 25.83/year. I suppose I could add a gallon of distilled water but seeing that it came from my de-humidifier, cost on that was about nil, except for the electricity needed to pull it out of my damp basement. Also didn't include the yearly twice a year cost when they are given a 24 hour 2 amp trickle charge just before storing for winter. |
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StephenH
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StephenH
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Posted: 23 Apr 2023 at 10:32am |
It’s all installed but all of our camping has been off grid. Have yet to connect to shore power to test it out |
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