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offgrid ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
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Great, do keep us posted.
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Old Man Running ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Mar 2021 Location: Alabama Online Status: Offline Posts: 24 |
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Thanks Offgrid, I have ordered a bonding plug from Amazon, trying to solve this problem has been like a scavenger hunt. Although I do not have any special knowledge of air conditioning systems, I do have a basic understanding of electricity and can hopefully think things through, especially with some outside help.
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offgrid ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
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You need on of these. That should fix the problem with the circuit analyser and most likely the a/c as
well. bonding plug |
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Old Man Running ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Mar 2021 Location: Alabama Online Status: Offline Posts: 24 |
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I agree that a 2.2kw generator isn't adequate to start a 13.5btuh a/c. Therefore I did install an easy start kit and verified that it works on shore power. In fact, I also tested the unit with my surge protector, which displays a readout of consumption. With the a/c unit on and connected to shore power, the surge protector shows a reading of 8-amps, then 9-amps, and then eventually 10-amps. This sequence occurs within a 3-5-minute time span. When connected to the 2.2kw generator, the a/c unit will not come on, not even the fan motor, which pulls very little amps. If you are in the rv when you turn-on the a/c, you will hear a very faint click, but nothing activates. That is why I am wondering if this unit has a front-end device, or maybe software modification which reads the source of incoming power and will not allow the unit to activate unless it reads a full 20-amp power source.
Additionally, I also connected the surge protector to the Honda 2.2kw generator to see the amount of power coming from the generator. The strange thing is that the surge protector indicated that there was an open ground and would not transmit power to the rv. This condition only occurs when the surge protector is connected to the generator. BTW, I also did this test using a different surge protector with the same results.
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offgrid ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
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There isn't a way for the a/c to know in advance what capacity a power source is.
A 2.2kw generator isn't adequate to reliably start a 13.5kbtu/h a/c, without a soft starter. Just because you can start one a/c one day doesn't mean it will start a different one (or even the same one) on another day. First, are you sure the a/c runs correctly on grid power? There are reports on line of the squirrel cage blower shafts freezing up due to corrosion. Second, what are the exact sequence of symptoms you're seeing when you try to start the a/c on the generator? |
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Colonel Podder ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 25 Sep 2020 Location: Lexington, SC Online Status: Offline Posts: 68 |
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2021 R-pod 196
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podwerkz ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Mar 2019 Location: Texas Online Status: Offline Posts: 966 |
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This is the way mine operates from the factory...I have the electronic Dometic thermostat...maybe they built in that version of a 'step start'...at any rate my 3500 watt genset (either one of them) starts my roof unit easily.
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r・pod 171 gone but not forgotten!
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Pod People ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 22 Sep 2011 Location: Chapel Hill,NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 1088 |
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I don't know about the electrical system on your pod. That may be a question for Forest River. personally, I have never heard of such a limiting device, but I am not the best electrical source. I would suggest that you call Micro Easy Aire and talk with them. give them a specific model number of AC and they will most likely be able to help. They were very helpful when I called them prior to my installation. As I understand it, the Easy Start will change the sequence of start up so the fan comes on first and has time to rev up to full speed. then the compressor comes on and it takes less voltage to get it going to full capacity. I am not an expert-but I know firsthand that it works on our Dometic 13.5btu AC with the Honda 2200. I hope you can get this worked out and be able to enjoy your pod Vann
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Old Man Running ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Mar 2021 Location: Alabama Online Status: Offline Posts: 24 |
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Thanks to both "Pod People" and "Offgrid" for your timely reply. I successfully used this generator (Honda EU2200i) on a Dometic 13.5K btu/h a/c, with a different RV, but replace that RV with a 2021 R-Pod 196, which is equipped with the Coleman Mach-3+ a/c. Although the generator will operate other appliances such as the microwave it will not operate the a/c, even in the fan mode. It seems like the a/c system has a front-end device that will prevent the a/c from operating in any mode (fan or a/c) unless connected to a full 20-amp service. Could this be possible, and if yes, is there a work around? Your help would be most appreciated.
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offgrid ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
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I found my Honda 2k to be only slightly less powerful on propane. That generator has to be pretty much at it's full continuous rating (1600VA) to run the a/c. If it was losing even 10% it wouldn't be able to run it.
I use the Century Fuels kit which has an adjustable demand regulator, and I do need to readjust it at higher altitudes. YMMV depending on which propane conversion kit you get. If you're concerned about losing power it would be a good idea to check into people's results with the kit you're considering. |
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