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    Posted: 28 Jan 2021 at 10:16pm
So they added a belt to go with the suspenders.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jan 2021 at 7:35am
Looks that way and also it looks like they are still assembling the suspenders incorrectly, which is why they fail and need a belt.  What I mean by being assembled incorrectly is that there are 2 parts to the bracket 1) an L bracket mounted to the frame and 2) a round bracket that goes around the black pipe.  The round bracket should be installed on top of the L bracket and then the bolt installed to keep the 2 brackets together. The round bracket should not be supported by a bolt to the L bracket in my opinion.  With this change the L bracket is supporting the round bracket if it is mounted on top of the L bracket.  I have made that change with mine and have not experienced any more problems.  Hope this helps.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jan 2021 at 7:42am
Maybe they should go into the history books and use the 'belt' once used on the older models.  The belts on my 2011 look similar but obviously used a beefier material in its construction as they have held up well over the past 10 years and 36,000 + miles.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jan 2021 at 7:55am
I think that the suspenders are beefy enough they just have to be put together the correct way.  Then you don't need a belt but it is always good to have a backup when dealing with black water.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jan 2021 at 9:27am
I was thinking. What if they just had inverted the round bracket going around the pipe, turned the end of the "L" bracket 90 degrees, eliminated the foot of the "L" and just bolted the clamping part of the round bracket through the strap? Then the pressure would not have been on the nut, loosening it over time, but it would likely have been just hanging on the bolt.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jan 2021 at 10:06am
I think that would work also but the suspenders as they now are assembled don't work and need a belt.  The suspenders are not the problem it's the assemble.  I have called customer service at Forest River and mentioned my concerns about this matter about 18 months ago but I guess it has fallen on deaf ears. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jan 2021 at 11:39am
I find the biggest problem is the strap material is to thin. The second problem is the strap is bent at 90 degrees at the point where the most force will be put on it. Metal fatigues and fractures at 90 degree bend, some worse than others. The black tank hanger they use is a timebomb at best. If they made it double thick, and made a corner radius instead of a sharp 90 degree bend, it would last the lifetime of the camper. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jan 2021 at 9:54pm
Some bean counter said it was good enough. I brought this to the FR staff that was at the KY Mini-Mini. I'm tired of hearing something is "industry standard" when the thing is obviously a product of either poor design or poor execution or a combination of the two.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jan 2021 at 7:17am
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jan 2021 at 9:12am
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