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CamFrye
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Topic: New 172 Owner Posted: 17 Sep 2020 at 3:50pm |
I'm not familiar with the 192, but what you;re describing is different than what I had.
On my 172, the wiring was located behind the sticker, which, if you enter the camper through the door and immediately turn 90 degrees to the left, you would be looking right at the sticker. The sticker was on the side wall of the overhead cabinet above the sink. On the 192, it looks like that similar location would be on the upper cabinet over the dinette? That cabinet is located directly under the MC-4 connector port mounted on the roof.
When I opened the cabinet, there was a partition on the left side (again, right behind the GoPower sticker) that I needed to remove by unscrewing the base trim. Once removed, there was a loop of wiring consisting of one yellow and one brown wire (12 gauge if I remember correctly), and I could follow the wire coming straight out of the underside of the MC-4 port in the roof (Edited to add:), looping in the cabinet and then exiting the cabinet into the roof toward the center of the trailer.Those wires were what I cut and installed the controller to.
The partition I removed was a flimsy little partition (something between cardboard and fiberboard). Once I looked at the inside of the cabinet closely, it was clear that it was "hiding" something, and it was not secured very well. There were no connectors. I cut the wire and installed the controller "in line" in those wires.
I have a 160 watt semi flexible panel with an MPPT controller and I can't remember if it's a 15 or 20 amp. I got them both from Overland solar. They have a good track record and reputation, and were very helpful. They also offer a 20 year warranty on their solar cells.
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2020 R Pod 172
2019 Subaru Ascent
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offgrid
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Posted: 17 Sep 2020 at 2:45pm |
Good question.
Glass modules have aluminum frames so even flush on the roof the top surface will be stood off about 1.5 to 2 inches. That will keep the rpod roof cooler but won't do a lot for the solar module. Creating an air gap between the frame and the roof to allow airflow will, even a half an inch is helpful.
Re portable vs RF roof mounts, that is a personal choice.
Pros for portables:
You can often place them in the sun while you are camped in the shade You can tilt them south or even move them over the course of the day to improve performance No holes ore adhesives on the roof
Cons for portables: Something else to set up and take down Storage while on the road Theft concerns
If you can't decide you can do both 
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kennedto100
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Posted: 17 Sep 2020 at 1:20pm |
offgrid
Thanks for the info. Are you saying I should not mount any panel to roof, or only mount glass panels to roof?
Tom
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offgrid
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Posted: 17 Sep 2020 at 1:16pm |
The so-called “flexible” solar modules are not a wise long term investment. Solar cells are rigid crystalline wafers so will eventually fracture when subjected to flexing. Also, the plastic top surface of that type of module is soft so subject to hail damage and scratching.
Get a standard glass surface module, in the long run you will be happier. Look at the warranties, glass ones are 20 plus years, “flexible” ones are a few years at most. Also, modules mounted directly to the roof will run hot, reducing solar performance and increasing heatin the trailer. And if a solar cell hot spot develops (which happens when a cell gets a fracture) you can get a burn spot on the module and trailer roof.
I was a solar module designer for many years and manufactured both types.
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1994 Chinook Concourse
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kennedto100
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Posted: 17 Sep 2020 at 12:20pm |
Thanks for the info.
On my rig, the gopower sticker was located on the upper cabinet next to the awning switch. I looked behind the sticker and I see no obvious wires for connecting to the roof panels. I then looked behind an access panel next to the bed night stand. I see two wires that are not connected to anything. Looks like they might be the wires for the solar controller. They are wago 221 connectors on the end of the wires. Does that sound like the right type of connectors to connect the solar controller to.
Also, which model of controller/panels did you go with?
Tom
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CamFrye
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Posted: 17 Sep 2020 at 11:00am |
kennedto100,
The install was straightforward.
I installed a semi-flexible panel directly to the R-Pod roof between the A/C and the fin, with the long direction running side to side. I needed MC-4 extensions (one 2 ft long and one 1 ft long) to connect to the GoSolar roof port.
I connected a solar controller to the wiring inside the cabinet above the sink. I mounted the controller on the outside of the cabinet (roughly where the GoSolar sticker was located), which required a hole through that side of the cabinet so the wiring could exit and then reenter the cabinet.
That was it. My only problem was that one of the MC-4 connectors I ordered had a bad connector, but I had ordered and extra of that length, so that worked out okay.
It works great. We don't use a whole lot of battery, and the system is intentionally oversized for how we use it right now, so it has no problem keeping our batteries fully charged.
If you have more specific questions about the whats, hows or whys of our solar, let me know, I'm happy to share.
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kennedto100
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Posted: 17 Sep 2020 at 9:17am |
Can you give us an update on the GoPower install?
I just purchases a 2020 192 and am considering that. I would like to know what is involved.
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Pod People
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Posted: 10 Jun 2020 at 10:38am |
I agree with Glue Guy-we use a Renogy 100 watt portable suitcase system and love it. We can park the Pod in the shade and i have about 35' of power cord to move the panels around for maximum sun exposure. It keeps my 2 6v GC batteries fully charged. Enjoy your new Pod-it is a great way to travel and have fun Vann
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Posted: 10 Jun 2020 at 10:04am |
I have a 172 and love it, you will too. I suggest removing the paneling in from of the under-bed supports (both the bottom bunk and the dinette to make the storage more accessible. Have fun and welcome!
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mjlrpod
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Posted: 10 Jun 2020 at 9:17am |
Welcome and congrats on your 172. I miss my 172, it was a nice camper. It was especially great when using the R-dome. Gives so much space, and I loved sitting in the dome during rain storms. Have fun.
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2017.5 Rp-172
2020 R-pod 195
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