Unable to get Generator to power Air Conditioner |
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podwerkz
Senior Member Joined: 11 Mar 2019 Location: Texas Online Status: Offline Posts: 966 |
Topic: Unable to get Generator to power Air Conditioner Posted: 25 Jun 2020 at 3:16pm |
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Good information in that video but jeeze...whats with the dude showing off his pedicure and dubbing in 70's background porn video music?
I cant un-see or un-hear all of that...thanks guys, I'll be on my way now....
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r・pod 171 gone but not forgotten!
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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Posted: 25 Jun 2020 at 6:59am | |
Sorry to hear that. That genny is certainly fussy. I suggest that you call Microair and discuss it with them before you buy an easystart, they might have had a customer already try it with that genny which would give you confidence it would actually work (or not). The other alternative would be to sell that genny on CL and get one that isn't quite so particular.
I suggest using a piece of pywood on the roof to spread out the load a bit when working up there. Also deploy the stabilizers. Safety first.
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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft 2015 Rpod 179 - sold |
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GCRicker
Newbie Joined: 22 May 2018 Location: New Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 32 |
Posted: 24 Jun 2020 at 7:12pm | |
The answer is it still doesn’t work after I installed Dometic’s capacitor. The Briggs and Stratton fault light still comes on the second the condenser turns on. It was the first time I’ve been on the RPod roof and I lived to tell about it. I learned that kneeling on Dycor is bad. I put a huge indent in it and will now have to buy Dycor and go back up on the roof to level it off. I won’t be buying an Easy Start system this year. Maybe next year.
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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Posted: 18 Jun 2020 at 11:43am | |
"His issue was only the fan speed while starting the ac, not while running it". That statement indicated to me that you were unclear about starting vs running so I wanted to be certain we were on the same page. Glad we are. I've brought you 4 or 5 rocks now and you've rejected every one. Cherry picking data is your prerogative of course. Mine is to conclude that you are not interested in having a serious discussion. I guess this is a case where repeating the same inaccurate statement over and over somehow might make it true. Moving on now. |
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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft 2015 Rpod 179 - sold |
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Tibof
Senior Member Joined: 19 Sep 2017 Location: North Idaho Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
Posted: 18 Jun 2020 at 10:25am | |
Thanks for the instruction offgrid, but I actually understand all of that. I've been at this a long time. But I took your reference at his word when he said that the EU2200 started and ran his AC quite well. He did not report difficulty with recycling the compressor. It's your own reference you now want to take issue with. All data suggests that Pod owners should feel safe in relying on an EU2200 to run thee AC.
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2015 Pod Hood River Edition
2012 Tacoma Crew Cab 4 Liter |
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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Posted: 17 Jun 2020 at 10:05pm | |
It is the compressor startup that overloads these generators. And the compressor cycles on and off under thermostat control, while the fan remains running. So, the generator has to restart the compressor every few minutes. Meaning that it is at risk of overload and shut off every few minutes. If you wanted the fan on high and you were experiencing the problem that tester was, you would have to set the fan back on low every time the a/c cycled off. This whole discussion is all about starting, not running. No one is suggesting that the 2200i can’t run the a/c once it is started. My 2k Honda can as well, at least at the elevations and temps I experience. The Easystart allows these small generators to also start it, even when the fan is on its high setting. A soft start circuit does nothing to improve the ability of a generator to run the a/c once started. I believe that BOTH of that tester’s a/cs that failed to start on the 2.2k Honda were located in the Orion Arm of the Milky Way. The only RV I’m aware of that is capable of interstellar travel was the 33' 1986 Winnebago Chieftain, aka the Eagle 5: |
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1994 Chinook Concourse
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StephenH
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6288 |
Posted: 17 Jun 2020 at 8:00pm | |
All this talk about generators got me looking again for a new one to upgrade my Generac iX2000. It has been reliable, but I want something with more power and the kicker is that I want it to be able to run on propane. Enter this: Firman 2900W Running / 3200W Peak Electric Start Dual Fuel Inverter Generator Gas and LP Costco has it listed for $779.99 plus tax with free shipping. It is significantly lower than I have seen it listed anywhere else. I ordered it today and will be looking forward to it arriving so I can test it. It will simplify my travels as I won't need to worry about carrying gasoline containers. It may not be quite as quiet as I would like though and some people indicate that it arrived damaged in shipment. I can't blame Firman for that though. One feature this one has is a meter to track hours, voltage, etc. I was also looking at a Champion model, but that lacked a meter and it would have cost $355.95 more. I won't be removing the EasyStart. I will also have to figure out a way to load/unload the generator because of the additional weight. I have a bed extender that I may be able to adapt for the purpose. Also, if we do go out west this summer, it will be much better for running the AC than the Generac iX2000 would have been.
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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Tibof
Senior Member Joined: 19 Sep 2017 Location: North Idaho Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
Posted: 17 Jun 2020 at 5:59pm | |
His issue was only the fan speed while starting the AC, not while running it. I'll leave it to Pod owners/generator buyers to check out all of the information and to fully watch your video. Then try an EU2200 on your Pod, in this galaxy. I don't know that it will work FOR SURE, but I would bet that plate of crow that it will.
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2015 Pod Hood River Edition
2012 Tacoma Crew Cab 4 Liter |
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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Posted: 17 Jun 2020 at 5:23pm | |
Good grief. So now you are conditioning your crow eating commitment on the fan speed setting?
I for one want my a/c to run and max evaporator efficiency (eg. high fan speed) and be able to cycle on an off without having to remember to run over and reduce the fan speed before it restarts for the next cycle.
But I knew you would ask for yet another rock, so here is it. At 7 minutes he states that he was also not able to start a 13.5 in a 2017 RV with the 2200, and that IT MAY OR MAY NOT WORK FOR YOU. Clearly the results are not "all good". That is the point I and others here have been trying to make. Not that a 2200 or even a 2000I can't start an a/c, because certainly they can, under some conditions. I've done it myself. But results vary. Hence my emphasis on the term "reliably start". I wanna see that plate of crow. |
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1994 Chinook Concourse
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Tibof
Senior Member Joined: 19 Sep 2017 Location: North Idaho Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
Posted: 17 Jun 2020 at 4:56pm | |
I know a wee bit about statistics too, I used to do statistical experimental design. Its meaningless unless you control your input variables. OK, you sucked me in with the crow challenge..... Go to about 3:30 in this vid and watch a 2200 NOT start a 13.5Kbtu a/c. And don't even think about asking me to bring you yet another rock, two is all my lumbar vertebrae can tolerate.... [/QUOTE]
My interest is chiefly to assist Pod owners with a generator decision. Excellent video, for it emphatically supports my point and actually states clearly (in writing at 6.35) that the EU2200 runs the AC just fine as long as you are not STARTING the AC at the highest fan speed (even when using an extension cord of questionable AWG). Who would do that? If you know something about probabilities, then you know that so far the case is quite strong for the EU2200 running a Pod AC. How many good mellons do I have to pull from the pile to "prove" that they are likely all good? If we are really attempting to inform Pod owners, then it seems that they should understand that evidence clearly points to the EU2200 running the AC. As for eating crow .........
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2015 Pod Hood River Edition
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