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    Posted: 04 May 2020 at 9:05pm
I have been flushing my water tank to clean and sanitize it after having a problem with algae last year. As I was running the pump, I noticed that it was making much more noise than usual. I thought, "Oh no! Now I need to buy a water pump." However, my curiosity kicked in and I decided to take it out and see if I could figure out why it was making that noise. To be more precise, it was an intermittent noise that sounded like something rattling around in the pump.

I disconnected the hoses (after releasing pressure and letting the low point drains drain the system. I also bypassed the water heater for this since I did not want to deal with 6 gallons of water draining in the pump space. I brought it inside and took the pump head off the motor and discovered that there was a small washer inside. I have no idea how long it has been there. The pump has been quiet previously and this only seemed to start very recently when I started flushing the tank. I do have the strainer in place so I don't see how it could have gotten in that way. It looks like one of the ones that is used on the screws that fasten the pump head to the motor. At least I think it was in there. I don't think It fell of one of the screws as I was removing it.

After giving it a look to see if I could figure out what was rattling (if it was not the washer), I reassembled it and reinstalled it in our 179. When I turned it on (after putting all the valves I had changed back in the proper position) it primed and ran to pressurize. Then it shut off. It was quiet. I tried turning on and off faucets, and it continued to run quietly.

I thought this was an odd enough problem to deserve being written up in case anyone else starts having a noisy pump problem.  It is actually very easy to take apart and put back together, so don't be afraid to try it if your pump starts making a rattling sound.

p.s. I did not mess with either of the small hex screws as I thought they probably control the pressure at which the pump runs and shuts off as well as smoothing the water flow. I did not want to mess any settings up by turning either of them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 May 2020 at 6:00am
Interesting. Sounds like you fixed it. Perhaps the washer had been in the pump the whole time but just finally lodged in a position where it rattled during your sanitizing procedure? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 May 2020 at 12:46pm
That is what I am thinking. It was likely pinched in for the whole time we have owned it (since December, 2015), and finally worked loose. That saved me about $70 since I don't need to purchase a new pump. I did order a new strainer because the bowl on mine has turned milk-white. I don't need to replace the whole thing, but I could not find just the bowl with the strainer for sale. I think I will use the clear one for regular use and then keep the white one for when I am winterizing. It may be that the pink antifreeze is what caused it. In any case, the pump is quiet again and I am happy about that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 May 2020 at 4:49pm
The pump on our 2011 177 has been noisy from day one.  After owning this for 9+ years now I am thinking maybe doing what you did.  When you say your pump is "quiet", how quiet do you mean?  Quiet can be quite a relative term in this case.  Also, what are your thoughts of foregoing the rv antifreeze thing and just using compressed air?  Takes me about 2 minutes to go through all our lines twice at 80 psi.  After that I use a total of 16 oz. antifreeze each year for the traps.  If you don't have a compressor I understand why.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 May 2020 at 6:06pm
Quiet as in a low, steady sound instead of a rattling sound. It isn't anywhere near silent. It is, as you say, a relative term.

I do have a compressor. As for the RV antifreeze, I have found that even with compressed air, when I followed that by RV antifreeze, I see some residual water being pushed out. I don't go with 80 PSI. I limit it to 50 PSI. Also, using compressed air does nothing to protect the pump. That is one reason I use it. It is a personal preference.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 May 2020 at 6:29pm
Every 12V RV pressure pump I've ever heard makes a very noticeable low pitched steady hum. That's normal. A high pitched rattle signifies a problem. Jato, if you don't have the rattle I'd call it good and leave it alone. Just my opinion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 May 2020 at 8:01pm
You might also have a different model pump than I have since yours is older. Is the pump head square or more triangular? Mine is square. The model number is  4008-101-A65.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 May 2020 at 5:41am
Pump head is square.  Not sure of the model number but the build date on mine is January 2011 so I guess for how much water this has pumped over the past 9 years, it has been pretty reliable, in spite of the noise it makes.  One last thing I didn't mention was that when I blow out the water lines with air, there is always at least one line open usually two.  With 80 psi there would probably be issues if no lines were open with that kind of pressure.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 May 2020 at 6:50am
If the pump has water in it and it freezes, it could damage the pump. That is why I use RV antifreeze. I guess running it until it is dry and is essentially acting as an air pump would work also. I may try the air method with just RV antifreeze for the toilet and traps the next time I winterize it.
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