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offgrid
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Topic: R-Pod 195 sneak peak teaser Posted: 09 Mar 2019 at 1:34pm |
For sure it wouldn't work if you tried to place the left side bed fore and aft, but if you created an L it could work. It would be a bit like sleeping in a boat v-berth, which can be OK.
Once you opened up some of the area which is currently under the bed you could place drawers or cabinet doors and make much better use of the under bed storage space than we can now. That would probably mean relocating some items that are currently accessed through the ourside door to the tow vehicle. There is also a wasted boxed in area just in front of the closet/drawer section that would become accessible.
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StephenH
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6289 |
Posted: 09 Mar 2019 at 12:19pm |
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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StephenH
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6289 |
Posted: 09 Mar 2019 at 12:07pm |
I also like the vent hood for the stove. It has been mentioned more than once that one would be good to have and FR listened. That would help with the "dinner will be ready when the smoke alarm goes off" situation. I would be able to work around the counter space limitation, especially since there are cabinets above the sink and stove which are another thing that I really like about the 195 design. If the table indeed no longer has the pivoting mechanism but instead has legs that collapse and a slot for storage by the door, that is another thing that has been a source of annoyance for many that will have been addressed. As for the refrigerator location, in order to have the dry bath, the pantry has to be somewhere. It would either be where it is in the 195 design or if the refrigerator were in the same place as the 179, the pantry just swap locations and the counter space would still be limited. In the 195 layout, it is highly likely that the refrigerator performance will be much improved as the air flow for the back of the refrigerator should be much improved. If the refrigerator were to be put in the same location as in the 179, the airflow would still be less than ideal due to the need to vent it through the side of the slide-out. So many people would rather have the dry bath with separate shower. The wet bath (I don't mind it) is a turn-off to many. All in all, I think FR put a lot of thought into this design. Will
it please everyone? No. Will it be something that will be popular and
sell well? I think so depending on the price point.
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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GlueGuy
Senior Member Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2630 |
Posted: 09 Mar 2019 at 11:45am |
The only thing I "like" about is the bed configuration. The kitchen is a turn-off compared to the RP-179, and the bathroom takes up too much space. The larger fridge is OK, but I don't like where they put it.
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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River 2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost |
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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Posted: 09 Mar 2019 at 11:40am |
FR appears to have the characteristics of a sales driven rather than a marketing driven company. That makes sense because the RV market is highly prone to boom/bust cycles so few brands survive in the long term to develop the kind of brand loyalty we see in some other industries. Airstream comes to mind as the example of one that does. So from FR's perspective there probably isn't going to be a strong company culture wanting to preserve the unique characteristics of the r-Pod product line. Its understandable but disapointing nevertheless.
If you have a single spray port, and you have the access, you could connect it to the hot water line rather than the cold. Then add an adjustable thermostat to the water heater and your water will be just the right temperature coming out of your spray port. Pretty simple mod. StephenH, I think you could do something like you're suggesting by removing the 179 closet and rebuilding it on the opposite wall just in front of the slide. You would have room to reuse the same closet door I think. You would lose the bottom drawer or two, because the furnace is under there. That would give you a L shaped bed area along the front and passenger side walls, with both legs of the L about 75 inches long. You would need to be willing to play footsies with your trailer mate though . |
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mjlrpod
Senior Member Joined: 27 Sep 2016 Location: Massachusetts Online Status: Offline Posts: 1214 |
Posted: 09 Mar 2019 at 10:44am |
I'm beginning to feel i'm the one left that is excited about this model. The back isn't squared either, it's just a tight radius, look at the pics. I'm more concerned about no outside shower, unless the spray port stephen speculated they have now has hot water also. I like to wash my feet and de-sand" from the beach to keep it out of my grey tank. I'm glad they kept 30 gal tanks, I hope the grey and black use a single drain point. I like the 10 foot awning too, might forego the dome and use the awning and my clam.
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lostagain
Senior Member Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Quaker Hill, CT Online Status: Offline Posts: 2587 |
Posted: 09 Mar 2019 at 9:20am |
Brands are only meaningful when they offer consistent uniqueness/style, quality, and value for the price. When they deviate from any of those characteristics, they start to lose the loyalty they built up in their customer base. If they go too far, the brand will not survive. Oh, how I wish I could find a brand new DeSoto. It's delightful. (I've been watching too much Groucho Marx on YouTube.)
Did FR go too far in flattening the back of the 195? Only time will tell, but there is nothing really special about a trailer with a rounded front and a flat back. You can find several brands within the FR lineup and many from other manufacturers. Personally, what I think FR is trying to do is catch the part of the market of aging Pod owners who want a full bath and a little easier to access bed. I think they figure we are losing agility and, though we still want a small trailer, we now want the ease of getting in and out of bed easily and the convenience of a separate shower. They're right in going after this market segment and will probably have a successful product provided they keep the value for the price competitive with other brands. If I were in the market for a new trailer, I'd certainly consider the 195, but i'd also seriously take a look at the Pacific Coachworks 18FB as an alternate. At that point, it all boils down to price (assuming comparable quality). I feel no sense of personal loyalty to Mr. Buffett or any of his companies.
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Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
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StephenH
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6289 |
Posted: 09 Mar 2019 at 8:59am |
I'm wondering how hard it would be to reengineer our 179 to do a twin bed layout. Negatives are the wardrobe in the way which would need to be re-worked to allow foot room and the lack of space for the slide-side as well.
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Posted: 09 Mar 2019 at 7:08am |
Exaclly. GM decided to "badge engineer" the Pontiac, which then destroyed its brand distinctiveness. Brand is a corporate asset, companies spend millions of dollars and decades developing their brand images. Brand is often the most valuable asset a company has when its sold. Did GM squander this value unnecessarily? Maybe they decided only a few of us old geezers cared. Who knows? But its gone now for sure. Is FR doing the same by compromising the original (highly successful) concept behind the r-pod brand as a light, compact travel trailer with a unique roofline? I think yes, others will disagree. Time will tell. As Honda has made the Civic larger over time they did not retain the original "small" Civic. Instead, they introduced the Fit as the smallest car in their US product line. By doing it that way they have retained the distinctiveness of both product lines while being able to cash in on existing Civic customers' desire for a larger vehicle as they aged. Smart strategy that worked well for them. FR is not doing that (so far) with the r-pod. As to manufacturers making what customers want in order to survive, that is not how marketing led companies work. Companies that are sales driven have a short planning horizon and want to make what customers tell them they want today. Successful marketing driven companies filter what sales is telling them about their customers, assess their own and their competitor's producs and capabilities, and then plan their product lines and marketing materials to "teach" customers what they ought to want. Best example of this in history? The iPhone. My concern with having a "big fat" r-Pod in the lineup is that it creates a muddle, customers will no longer know what an r-Pod is and isn't as distinct from other products in the market. Maybe FR has decided that most everyone who wants a "small" r-pod has already bought one, or maybe they are planning a new "small" product line like Honda did, or maybe they are being short sighted. Again, time will tell. All that being said, if you like the new "big fat" r-pod, buy it, nothing wrong with that. I'm sure it will be a good product. Its too big for me. |
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StephenH
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6289 |
Posted: 08 Mar 2019 at 8:38pm |
My thoughts too on the heater pads. As long as I can continue to climb over my wife, we will likely stick with our 179. When I can't do that, I can use my modified dinette. In that case, I may reduce the queen mattress size and make some cabinetry in the front end of the 'Pod. While I would like to go with the 195 because of multiple features with it that I like, finances dictate sticking with what we have for now. We just plunked down almost 3K on the new axle, brakes, hub, and slide-out leak repair so money for trading isn't necessarily there and won't be for a while. That is okay since it won't even be available for several months.
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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