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    Posted: 17 Feb 2019 at 9:03pm
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Thanks for all the help!!!

Again the ASS-U-ME BUG bit me in the butt.

I assumed that the tank was full ( because the fresh water hose was connected and on)  and in an earlier post that the 1/4 , 1/2,  3/4, full LEDs on the control panel were not working.   

I assumed that because I had filled the gray tank 3 times that the fresh was full running while running the shower and sink to flush the system and to flush the tanks.    ( because the fresh water hose was connected and on)

  As stated before the reason I wanted to use the bleach and flush the tanks was for my peace of mind as I bought my R-Pod as previously owned and wanted to ensure that everything was in working order and sanitary.

I timed how long it took to fill the gray tanks so I would have a rough idea on how much we would have to curb shower times etc.  It took 18 minutes to fill the gray with both the shower and sink running. This was using my city water pressure not the water pump.

But when not running the faucets the fresh water tanks fills EXTREMELY SLOW .  It will take several hours to fill the tank.   The only way I was able to completely fill the tank was to put the hose in the fill by hand inlet instead of the city water connection and it filled very rapidly.

So my problem to both the lights and the drain is simply the fact that the tank had way less water in it that I had ASSUMED.   Less than 1/4 of a tank.   

So what I don't understand now is:  Why does it have plenty of inlet flow when the faucets are open and next to none when they are closed.  Is there some kind of float valve inside that cuts off the city water supply.
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Even with chlorinated city water, it is still a good idea to sanitize the tank and water system. The concentration of chlorine in the sanitizing treatment is somewhat higher than what is in tap water and will be more effective. That is also why it is a good idea to flush the system afterward.
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I was sort of nicely hinting at that and yes if his city water is filling the fresh water tank the water pump check valve has failed. There might be two problems. Hopefully it will get resolved with all the excellent input. On the 2017 180 it is a screw cap drain. I added a drain valve to cleanly drain mine the new petcock is a good idea but reportedly drains slowly. The plumbing and electrical issues often need very specific details. Thanks everyone.
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Tearless,

There is nothing that stops the fresh water tank from draining. Unless the drain itself is plugged. I added a valve vice the PVC cap. I don't do the bleach routine, I have chlorinated water.
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He states that he has the hose hooked up to the house...is it hooked up to the city water connection and the check valve has failed and filled the fresh water tank too?  This happened to me.

otherwise, just unscrew the cap on the bottom of the tank.
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Just to be sure that you have found the fresh water tank drain.  Here's a photo of it on my 180.

I just unscrew the petcock assembly from the tank by hand.  It drains too slow if I just open the valve. No pliers or wrenches.

Then replace it by hand when done draining.  I need to lower the tongue way down...to tilt the front of the tank down...to completely drain the tank.

If no water comes out when you remove this fitting, The hole is plugged or there is no water in the tank.  Did you try lowering the front of the trailer?
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Thank you for clarifying and getting back to us. That is a very important aspect and learning tool of this forum. Now you said you are connected to your house are you filling the fresh water tank via the hose. There is no connection it has a cap that is removed then the hose placed in the filler area and when full an overflow vent will begin spurting water out. If all of that is correct disconnect all water sources and turn on your water pump and open a faucet. Give it a minute to prime and the water pump will take water from the fresh water tank and eventually empty it. If this works fill it for a a few minutes then open that screw cap directly under the opaque tank. If nothing comes out I would suspect as you do it is plugged. I doubt there is a screen in it as one purpose is any debris to drain also. I will leave it up to your discretion on how to unplug it but I would probe it with a screwdriver.
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Go ahead and gently insert the tip of a screwdriver or something up in there after removing the cap, that should dislodge whatever is blocking the drain. Worked for me. 
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Originally posted by Lear111

Unfortunately I have to clarify a few things. You stated you filled the fresh water tank with water and bleach then flushed it 3 times. How did you flush it? The only way would be to use your water pump turn on the faucet and let 30 gallons of the fresh water run through the lines and then into the gray tank then dump that tank. Or as stated drain the fresh water tank which apparently doesn’t drain. The fresh water tank is the white or opaque tank ahead of the axle or the very most forward tank. It has a screw cap from a small protrusion hanging down most easily reached from the drivers or slide side on the 180. Using a flashlight shine it in the tank as you will be able to see the water level using that method. If there is water in it removing that single screw cap water should drain via gravity. I do not know the drain design but I am sure other members will comment on various ways to unplug it. Often small plastic debris or other foreign objects can be in the tank. Owners most often see it in the filter on the water pump.
 

Your are correct with all the above.   I emptied   the gray then ran the sink and shower till they were full again  then emptied it again. Running all of the bleach water in the fresh to the gray then out then two more cycles of fresh through the gray and emptied.

The fresh has been refilled as I am connected to my house.  I can see water in the tank.  But when I remove the cap nothing comes out.    I wasn't sure if it was suppose to or if it is blocked.   I didn't want to go poking things up there  and risk damaging something without asking.
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Posts: 66 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Feb 2019 at 1:22am
Unfortunately I have to clarify a few things. You stated you filled the fresh water tank with water and bleach then flushed it 3 times. How did you flush it? The only way would be to use your water pump turn on the faucet and let 30 gallons of the fresh water run through the lines and then into the gray tank then dump that tank. Or as stated drain the fresh water tank which apparently doesn’t drain. The fresh water tank is the white or opaque tank ahead of the axle or the very most forward tank. It has a screw cap from a small protrusion hanging down most easily reached from the drivers or slide side on the 180. Using a flashlight shine it in the tank as you will be able to see the water level using that method. If there is water in it removing that single screw cap water should drain via gravity. I do not know the drain design but I am sure other members will comment on various ways to unplug it. Often small plastic debris or other foreign objects can be in the tank. Owners most often see it in the filter on the water pump.
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