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lostagain
Senior Member Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Quaker Hill, CT Online Status: Offline Posts: 2587 |
Topic: Battery Advice Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 11:35am |
Or to put it another way, thank heavens that most people don't want to go off-grid with their RV's. That leaves all the more room and peace and quiet for those of us who do.
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Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
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jato
Senior Member Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Kewadin, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 3219 |
Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 8:59pm |
+1 Offgrid. We normally look for national parks or forest areas where electricity is not available. In fact when we go to Glacier or RMNP (Colorado) in September we expect 3-4 days out of each of our group size 24 deep cycle 12 volt batteries for a total of 6 - 8 days in one location. Temps when we go to Glacier (MT) or RMNP (CO) are normally 45 or lower in the evenings so the furnace runs quite a bit. Currently we are in the hibernation mode and both batteries are stored on the concrete floor in an unheated garage. In November a 2 amp trickle charge is given to both, takes 24 - 36 hours to bring each to a full charge. Nothing is done until the following April when the same protocol is followed. Been doing this for 8 years, batteries are still performing well. Important thing is to keep an eye on the electrolyte/water level in each cell, keep them topped off.
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'11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 7:37am |
Furpod, I probably misunderstood your original post.
"Most, likely somewhere near 98% (IME) of RV owners need the 12v battery ONLY to fire the brakes in case of a breakaway. They never camp without hookups, or for longer then the standard battery will allow them to be without charging." I read that to mean that 98% never camp without hookups. If you're saying that 60% of rPod owners never camp without hookups, meaning that 40% do so at least occasionally, then that figure seems reasonable to me. I do think a poll on this topic might be interesting. How many folks use their trailers without hookups and for how long? I agree that a typical use for an rPod without hookups is a weekend or a long weekend stay. They are small trailers. For that, a single 100AH battery will usually make it through. Once you add a charging source like solar or a generator the limiting factor becomes water usage anyhow. The two of us can go about a week on our 30 gallons but most folks would probably consider the water rationing required to be a bit extreme. Its interesting that larger trailers really don't use much more dc electrical energy than smaller ones. And they carry more water. Smaller trailers are much better suited to use in undeveloped campgrounds though. To me as a near exclusive off grid user, the ideal would be a trailer the size of an rPod but with more fresh and gray water carrying capacity. I've been tempted to go with a "composting" toilet and use the additional space under the trailer to add more fresh and gray capacity. But its just much additional weight for the trailer axle and chassis. |
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1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft 2015 Rpod 179 - sold |
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StephenH
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6288 |
Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 8:36am |
The deciding factor for me in going with dual 6V batteries was that I use a CPAP machine. We also travel with our R-Pod and while we are on the road, we spend the night in truck stops, Walmarts, etc. without hookups. The last thing I want is to run out of power in the middle of the night. Since cold nights use the furnace, the added capacity of the setup I have makes sure that does not happen even if the furnace is running a lot. The lights use insignificant amounts of power since they are LED. The 12V fan and/or the vent fan use somewhat more power but the fans help move the air around which makes my wife more comfortable. The fan also helps distribute the heat from the furnace, pulling heated air from under the bed (furnace location on the 179) and moving it out into the main cabin area. We do take advantage of connections if they are available, but we do need the higher power storage of the dual 6V batteries. One of these days when the price drops sufficiently, I would like to switch to a LiFePo4 battery as it would save significant weight for the same capacity but the price is way too high to consider now.
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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Tars Tarkas
Senior Member Joined: 14 Jan 2013 Location: Near Nashville Online Status: Offline Posts: 1446 |
Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 8:47am |
Sans poll, I'll say we camp off grid not exactly by preference, but certainly without hesitation. Some of the primo camping spots in the US, in my opinion, don't have hookups. It takes some planning and equimpent, as OffGrid suggested. We'll take a solar panel and/or a generator, maybe a sewage tote, and a way to haul water and refill the fresh water tank. That's really not as onerous as it may sound. With those preparations, we can stay out indefinitely without hookups. A general advantage to camping without hookups is that the campsites are usually (much) more dispersed. I've done it, but I really do not like campgrounds where you have to have someone watch you extend the slide so that you don't hit the camper next to you. Also, at National Parks anyway, with a Geezer Card, you can stay for about $10 to $14 a night. I'm limited by how much time I can take off from work, but we have camped without hookups for up to 14 days. I recently had to stay close to a city for a personal project I was working on and as a matter of locational convenience (new term) I stayed at a campground with full hookups. Even in winter it was crowded, and it was right at $50 a night. I'll admit, sewer hookups are nice and I took advantage of the cable and wifi, and I can understand how many people think those things are requirements. It depends on what matters to you though. Oh, yeah. We have dual propane and a single 12v battery. TT
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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 9:29am |
Li batteries aren't so bad right now considering that you can take them to 80-85% depth of discharge and they will last the life of the trailer. So you probably don't need to replace your PbA batteries with the same nominal capacity of Li. 100AH might be sufficient. I've seen 12V 100AH LiFePO4 packs with BMS as low as about $650-700. Weight about 25lbs.
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furpod
Moderator Group - pHp Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Location: Central KY Online Status: Offline Posts: 6128 |
Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 11:02am |
I agree, though the "right now" price is high, I believe that over time, they are still cheaper per usable aH then FLA batteries.
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Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 12:50pm |
I checked your member permissions and enabled you to be able to create polls. I was surprised as, I thought everyone could....something to check on. Just click on the most appropriate topic and it will open a page. There is a button to create a new discussion topic. Right next to it is a button to create a new poll. Click it and create your poll - it is easy/kind of a fill in the blanks sort of thing. FYI - The poll function is not terribly sophisticated. Respondents may choose only one of the options stated in the poll. Keep this in mind when crafting your poll. |
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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 12:57pm |
Thanks David,
I hadn't even checked for permissions as I had no idea how to do it anyway. Still don't but I'll give it a try.
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1994 Chinook Concourse
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Guests
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Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 1:01pm |
Member permissions are something that moderators/admins allow/disallow. The power we wield is quite intoxicating! |
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