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   Change the 120V TV for a dual 12/120V one, Its the only 120V low power appliance in the trailer, makes no sense. Cost difference is negligible. No need for an inverter unless to run the microwave ot a/c, which should be an end customer decision. 

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offgrid Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290	Topic: Your thoughts? Posted: 08 Nov 2018 at 11:49am
	Change the 120V TV for a dual 12/120V one, Its the only 120V low power appliance in the trailer, makes no sense. Cost difference is negligible. No need for an inverter unless to run the microwave ot a/c, which should be an end customer decision.
	1994 Chinook Concourse 1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft 2015 Rpod 179 - sold

ribet Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 26 Aug 2016 Location: Hillsboro, Oreg Online Status: Offline Posts: 64	Posted: 08 Nov 2018 at 11:46pm
	When a product is built by teams trying to meet a time schedule or flat rate time, problems will happen. I agree with all the comments, FR relies on the selling dealer to clean the mess made by the men building in a hurry, and rushing all the time. I cleaned up the left over screws, staples, wire pieces and repaired the water leaks. I was willing to do this and had the tools, time and knowledge. But some owners aren't as lucky as I am, and expect the selling dealer to fix everything. I am only guessing, I don't think FR pays well, if they did, dealer service departs would fix warranty problems. I have been a service manager in auto service departs and the manufacturer pays well. I am long winded but enjoy all comments on this site. Just sold by 171 and ordered a 10th ann. 180. Yes, I will ask the dealer to vacuum the saw dust, left over screws and other stuff that the factory overlooked. The other reality is that I will overlook the things that I CAN fix and just want to leave WITH MY NEW FRIEND!

Keith-N-Dar Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 03 Apr 2011 Location: Mayville, WI Online Status: Offline Posts: 1447	Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 3:32am
	When you buy a new car there is normally a charge from $200 to $500 for dealer prep. For this money dealers do the same thing good Pod dealers do: clean up the vehicle and check everything over. Sometimes they install some of the options. When we bought our Pod in 2011 our 177 was spotless and had no leaks or the problems normally discussed in posts of this nature. And our delivered cost was $10,000 less than sticker price. Chances are the dealer still made an acceptable margin. They have a customer in me for life.
	Keith-N-Dar Boris & Betty (Boston Terriers) 2011 R-Pod 177 2010 Ford F-150

offgrid Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290	Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 6:38am
	Dealer prep is for removing coatings and coverings from the vehicle that were placed on it at the factory to protect it for shipping, and for preparing it for pickup by the customer. It is not there to fix the factory's quality problems. The idea that quality is to be applied to a product at the end of the delivery chain is 1970's thinking. No world class company does that today, and especially not the auto manufacturers. It is very well understood that the earlier in a manufacturing process quality issues can be corrected the lower the costs of that process will be. Why? Because more and more value is added to the product during the process so any rework that is required will cost more the later the correction occurs. There really isn't any debate about these concepts now, just Google up the Toyota production system (Toyota was the first auto company to implement many of these practices), LEAN manufacturing and 6 sigma. So if it really is still the practice in the RV industry for dealers to do the rework for the manufacturers, then the RV industry is ripe for disruption. This inefficiency creates a rare opportunity for a new entrant to come into the market with a higher quality and lower cost product. Its happened plenty of times in other industries, we've all seen the results in the communities that are hit hard when it does. Time for the RV manufacturers and dealers to wake up and manage the change before someone else does it for them. And none of this is the workers fault btw, the "friday afternoon car" scenario notwithstanding. Its a management change problem. just my $0.02. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTmfwklFM-M
	1994 Chinook Concourse 1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft 2015 Rpod 179 - sold

jato Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Kewadin, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 3216	Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 7:24pm
	Keith and Dar: Curious as to where you purchased your pod from. Michigan or Wisconsin? I ask because we, like you, purchased our 177 in January of 2011 and picked it up in March. Had to travel about 5 hours to Escanaba to get it but our experience was similar to yours: spotless, no leaks, no problems, no issues. Although by the time we got it home, going through a terrible snow storm that had us wondering if we would even be able to cross the Mackinaw Bridge, it was filthy dirty on the outside. But here we are nearly 8 years later still enjoying that 177 and hopefully, as I retire in the next month will get used a lot more than the 30 days/year it has been used to since purchasing.
	God's pod '11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."