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    Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 9:46am
Agreed, my ball weight is 390 +/- with the same setup, weight done with a Sherline.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 9:38am
Originally posted by offgrid

Just one caveat on dual tanks on the tongue, and that's tongue weight. You'll be adding 40 lbs, so be sure you have the headroom for that on your rig. I don't, which is the only reason I haven't done this yet. But as soon as I can get that 130 lbs of lead and sulfuric acid off of there its next on my list. 


One note.. the tongue is part of a "lever".. so the batteries are not accounting for 130lbs at the ball, on our 177, going to dual GC2's only added 27 pounds to the ball over a single G24. The second tank is farther forward then the batteries, but I suspect no more then 30 pounds transferred.

Our 177, dual GC2's, dual 20 pound tanks, electric tongue jack, tanks empty, loaded to camp, we had 380lbs +/-  on the ball. Measured repeatedly with a Sherline.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 9:36am
Haven't found anything else yet so its legal as far as I can tell to secure up to 2 cylinders under the cap of pickup or in the back of an SUV, or in the trunk of a car. Ventilation is optional, personal choice. If anyone finds something that precludes this I'd be interested. 
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Atomic 4's powered the world for many years.  A great little engine.  Simple to fix, ran forever.  Production started in 1949 and 40,000 were produced with 20,000 still running.  It was the successor to the Utility Four used in WWII.   Mine ran fine.  It was the gasoline in the bilge that spooked me.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 9:28am
+1 to mile crate, in rear of PU under cap.
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It was an Atomic (bomb) 4 right? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 8:35am
i use the heavy plastic milk carton crates to hold the propane tanks.  They fit in quite snugly.  Then it's an easy effort to use a bungee cord to attach them to a tie down in the aft end of the bed of the truck.  They are stable and secure.  Of course in a severe accident they could break free, but on balance, that risk is relatively low.  

And to keep things nice and explosive, we also occasionally carry a can of gasoline in a steel UI-50-FS-Type 1 container, sometimes a couple.  But then, we have a rapidly decreasing 20 gallons of gasoline in a tank under the truck too.  All a bomb waiting to go off.  It's a good thing we don't smoke.

I would prefer diesel as a fuel, but my truck came with a gasoline engine and it's not practical to change it.  I did that once with a boat, changing the engine to diesel that is.  I sprang a leak in a 20 gallon tank of gas at sea and it was a harrowing trip home with gasoline draining into the bildge.  I replaced both the tank and the engine.  
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Just one caveat on dual tanks on the tongue, and that's tongue weight. You'll be adding 40 lbs, so be sure you have the headroom for that on your rig. I don't, which is the only reason I haven't done this yet. But as soon as I can get that 130 lbs of lead and sulfuric acid off of there its next on my list. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 7:52am
Originally posted by offgrid

OldNeumanntapr, regulations aside, if there is a concern about storing your 2nd propane tank in your camper shell why not get a dual tank bracket and keep both tanks on the tongue?  Many folks here have done that. An added benefit is you can get an auto transfer setup so you'll never run out of propane in the middle of a cold rainy night. 


easiest answer.

20 bucks to put on a rack, 20 more to put a double cover on, 70 or so to add a dual auto switching regulator and a second pigtail.

tank mount



Tank Cover


You can buy propane tank stabilizers and then just bungie the thing in place in the bed. either works. Many people who tote a spare in the bed find that a 5 gallon tank fits nicely in a milk crate, which has lots of bungie cord attachment points.



BTW, the inline tank gauges are pretty much useless. They work on pressure, and because they are on the high pressure side of the regulator, they show "working pressure" until moments before.. they don't. pressurized gases aren't used like fluid fuels.. they stay, (and have to) stay, at full pressure until the very end. Dometic makes a sonic tester, there is one available that uses weight, one that uses sonic checks and is permanently mounted to the bottom of the tank(s), and bluetooths to your phone, and of course stick on or the good old fashioned hot water test.

You can also, if you want to spend the money, buy either a transparent tank, OR, a tank with a built in float gauge.

Some options..


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