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    Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 6:03pm
So, carry as many tanks as you need in a well ventilated truck.  You're not likely to explode unless you are hit by a logging truck with a full load, or a train carrying tanks of propane, coal, and radioactive waste.  .... and then you can probably say with confidence your time has run out.
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Originally posted by OldNeumanntapr

Thanks for all the input, but gee, all I was looking for really was yes or no to the question of safety.

I didn’t know that the gauge was unreliable. Luckily the fridge runs on battery if and when the LPG tank runs dry.
 
Not for very long... With dual GC2's, we could get about 8 hours of fridge on 12v at 50% SOC
Luckily the fridge is a miser when it comes to propane..as in.. It will run, in hot weather, 4+ WEEKS on a single tank.. in cooler weather, possibly twice that.


What meant was that the battery could sustain the fridge while the LPG tank was being refilled, as a stop gap measure.
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Originally posted by OldNeumanntapr

Thanks for all the input, but gee, all I was looking for really was yes or no to the question of safety.

I didn’t know that the gauge was unreliable. Luckily the fridge runs on battery if and when the LPG tank runs dry.


 
Not for very long... With dual GC2's, we could get about 8 hours of fridge on 12v at 50% SOC

Luckily the fridge is a miser when it comes to propane..as in.. It will run, in hot weather, 4+ WEEKS on a single tank.. in cooler weather, possibly twice that.
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I vote safe, or I'd quit doing it.
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No one can actually tell you that its safe or not safe, that is really a personal decision. Interesting that I didn't hear anyone on here so far who said they felt it was unsafe. And I'm happy you asked the question because I wasn't sure it didn't violate any regs. Now I'm pretty certain it's ok from that perspective, and that all the noise you hear on that is just opinion.
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Thanks for all the input, but gee, all I was looking for really was yes or no to the question of safety.

I didn’t know that the gauge was unreliable. Luckily the fridge runs on battery if and when the LPG tank runs dry.
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Originally posted by Craneman

WOW!!!!! What happened to the days when we just filled the propane tank put in the trailer,Hooked it to the tow vehicle and go have fun.?????


We have people who try to tow with to little vehicle. 
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I think two things happened:

1) Expensive gas and lighter vehicles.
2) The RV "lite" trend, which has got way out of hand. Used to be a big ole trailer was a big ole trailer. Now even giant 5ers are marketed as "lite".
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WOW!!!!! What happened to the days when we just filled the propane tank put in the trailer,Hooked it to the tow vehicle and go have fun.?????
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Posts: 5290 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 10:11am
Yep, its a lever, you have to calculate the moments about the point of rotation, eg, the trailer axle. But nope its not 75%, its 89% for the propane on my 179. The arm (distance to trailer axle) for the hitch on my 179 is 13.1 ft and he propane tank is at 11.7 ft. 11.7/13.1 =0.89 so 40*0.89=35.6 lb.

For the batteries the arm is 10.1 ft and the weight of my 2 GC2's with cable and boxes is 129lbs. 129*10.1/13.1=99 lbs on the tongue. So just those two items add 135 lbs tongue weight. 

Don't forget that there are no batteries on the pod in FR's silly empty and tongue weight specs. Also no fluids of any kind, water or propane. Just one empty propane tank. 

And 179's are not 177's, the forward water tank and water heater positions are killers for tongue weight on the 179. I'm at 570lbs right now with only one propane tank, loaded and tanked up ready to go. On the 177 if you're carrying water you probably want more tongue weight.  I wish I had that problem...
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