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    Posted: 19 Oct 2018 at 6:16pm
Very true.  We reside on a narrow strip of land about 2 miles wide between Lake Michigan and Torch Lake which is home to a lot of apple, cherry, and grape orchards, as well as golf courses.  On the way to work, I will leave the truck in 3rd gear (manual stick shift) and go 30-35 mph for my 4.5 mile trip.  Even at that speed I have already hit 3 deer this year and it is quite normal each morning to make 1 panic stop as well as seeing quite a number of deer playing chicken at several different locations.  Way to many around here, at least the farmers are given block permits to thin the herd, but there are still too many.  
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Even then, you're at least helping thin the herd. I don't know how it is in your area, but in the mid atlantic deer are now so over populated that they are causing severe forest damage. And its natural selection in action, truly a matter of the quick vs. the dead Wink
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[QUOTE=DavMar]Jato, by chance do you have a crash bar on the front of your F150 and enjoy road kill tenderloin? LOL

Negatory,  Do remember however that the older trucks had real metal chrome bumpers, the thickness on my front bumpers is just a tad over 1/8".  Road kill tenderloin, yes, there have been a few instances where it was very enjoyableBig smile  but usually after it hits the bumper and goes down, the truck then proceeds to run it over with the front and then back tire, sometimes it gets caught by the pig on the rear axle for extra tenderizing, rendering the whole thing unusable.
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I drive a semi truck and last year I hit a huge buck, didn't have any trailer sway at all, hmmm to think about it I barley felt the deer impact my truck!!!
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Jato, by chance do you have a crash bar on the front of your F150 and enjoy road kill tenderloin? LOL
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Posts: 5290 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Oct 2018 at 4:41am
mcarter, there is no trailer sway without the trailer. It was just my bad sentence structure. nothing to do with trailer towing means that when I noticed initial squirminess when I put on new tires it was just
while driving the car. And that was a long time ago and on a sports sedan. 

To be clear, I don't buy the sway increase argument either, I'm just speculating where this particular urban legend might have originated. Like I said, I just put new tires on my TV, no squirminess, no sway tendency, better stability and ride from day one. 
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[QUOTE=offgrid]I read on the internet that deer kills increase the likelihood of trailer sway, and of course, everything you read on the internet is true, right?  Jato, can you confirm?

I have to oppose that 100%.   Deer kills do not increase the likelihood of trailer sway.  That being said, when a deer jumps in front of the TV and you swerve to hopefully avoid a collision, trailer sway then becomes a real possibility.Big smile  The deer in northern Michigan think they are pretty smart,"Hey Joe, watch that truck lock up the brakes as I jump out in front of him, or watch the whites of his eyes as I gracefully jump over his hood."  Meanwhile the F-150 replies, "If it's brown, it's down."
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I'm with Keith. I'm not sure I'm buying a tire break-in. In fact I know I'm not. BTW - what is sway on a tow vehicle without a tow?
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Posts: 1447 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Oct 2018 at 5:52pm
When radial tires were new o the American market I worked in a gas station and we were told to tell customers that the first 100 miles the tires were breaking in and traction issues could occur.  They also could not be rotated so they moved in the other direction than they had originally be mounted.  My tire dealer tells me this is no longer the case on either.  My bet this internet wisdom is old.  I cant imagine the liability a tire manufacturer would have if they sold tires that caused sway.
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Posts: 5290 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Oct 2018 at 5:42pm
I think Happy Tripping is talking about sway occurring after changing to new tow vehicle tires. Nothing to do with trailer towing but I've put new tires on cars before and had them feel squirmy for awhile before the tires break in a bit. 

Could be that the squirminess results in some sway, could be sidewall stiffness variation, could be tire pressure a being bit low. FWIW, I just put new tires on my TV and noticed no squirminess on the TV or sway tendency on the trailer. 

If that's what they're talking about and your rig is that sensitive that a little tire squirminess causes sway you should probably think about redistributing some weight and adding/increasing sway control. 
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