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   Here is another video link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMXneKc_fDo

I like this one because it displays the framing of a pod on the outside of a completed pod, you can also get an idea of size of aluminum frame pieces.

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mcarter Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Location: Greenbrier, TN Online Status: Offline Posts: 3419	Topic: Stargazing Window Posted: 02 Oct 2018 at 12:17pm
	Here is another video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMXneKc_fDo I like this one because it displays the framing of a pod on the outside of a completed pod, you can also get an idea of size of aluminum frame pieces.
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marwayne Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 Oct 2011 Location: Edmonton AB Can Online Status: Offline Posts: 1002	Posted: 02 Oct 2018 at 1:08pm
	The flat part of the roof is aluminum framing with wood framing overtop. host image online
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offgrid Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290	Posted: 02 Oct 2018 at 2:25pm
	mcarter, thanks for that video, very useful. I called FR and they confirmed that the wall top frame members are 1 inch square box tubing that they buy pre-curved. Tubing wall thickness was estimated at 1/16 inch, but I'd sure like to confirm it. marwayne, do you happen to know the box tube wall thickness? If not I guess I can pull off the air conditioner diffuser, drill a slot and get in there and measure it with a micrometer. It looks from the video showing someone on the roof that the flat part is the only part you can put weight on, the rest is just lightweight wood crosspieces. That confirms to me that I want to mount large solar modules only to the wall top rails at least for ones that aren't in that center section. I could have upwards of 1000 lbs uplift on those big 77 x 39 inch modules. I'll take a look at self tapping fastener pullout strength in .062 aluminum. At least there are two wall surfaces to attach to. Should be doable if I use several fasteners per side. I can do a pullout test on one before putting them all in. Thanks again.
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marwayne Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 Oct 2011 Location: Edmonton AB Can Online Status: Offline Posts: 1002	Posted: 02 Oct 2018 at 2:43pm
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Ben Herman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 26 Apr 2018 Location: Gr Junction, CO Online Status: Offline Posts: 355	Posted: 02 Oct 2018 at 3:30pm
	I am still intrigued by the idea of putting a 2nd Fantastic Fan right above the bed in our 179. Our first trailer had one and it made a big difference in nighttime cooling.

mcarter Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Location: Greenbrier, TN Online Status: Offline Posts: 3419	Posted: 02 Oct 2018 at 4:37pm
	One of the selling points of the RPod was the single sheet roof. Having battled delamination issues on previous RVs I am very cautious of cutting holes in that roof. We use a fan, internal to the Pod to assist with cooling, why breach that roof for an additional vent when there are cost effective alternatives to cool or move air? Your Pod , your call, but I'm not cutting new holes in my roof. Number 1 issues with RVs could be roof leaks, and once they start you won't be camping you will be fixin, then it isn't fun anymore.
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offgrid Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290	Posted: 02 Oct 2018 at 6:34pm
	Good point mcarter. If water can get in it will. Look at the leaks around the rear spoiler that some folks have reported. Ben Herman, if its cooling you're after then short of cutting holes in the roof what I did was buy two of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003SS62PS/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I added a 12V cigarette lighter receptacle, a cig lighter wye, and a cig lighter extension and clipped the fans so they are hanging down on the window valances in front of open windows in the sleeping area. Works pretty well. If you're after additional light then there isn't much choice other than ceiling holes. At least the roof vents/fantastic fans use standard 14 inch holes and are well designed to avoid leak problems. I wouldn't try to install one in an area of high roof curvature though, that would be much more leak prone. If you aren't using your aircon that can be removed and a standard roof vent/fantastic fan installed in that existing 14 inch hole. That wouldn't increase the risk of roof leaks because that hole is already there.
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marwayne Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 Oct 2011 Location: Edmonton AB Can Online Status: Offline Posts: 1002	Posted: 02 Oct 2018 at 6:40pm
	This instead of AC
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jato Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Kewadin, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 3216	Posted: 02 Oct 2018 at 7:40pm
	Very nice Marwayne. We toyed with that very idea when we ordered our 177 w/o the A/C. However we went with the lid like you have but also have the lower area screened so that we can open it like the FF for additional air movement and cooling. We have also noted a huge difference in the brightness inside our 177 compared to others that have the A/C.
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marwayne Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 Oct 2011 Location: Edmonton AB Can Online Status: Offline Posts: 1002	Posted: 02 Oct 2018 at 8:21pm
	I didn't want any hardware or screen to look through
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