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    Posted: 22 Jun 2018 at 2:44pm


I need to correct myself - it is a Love's truck stop, not Pilot. (I think Love's is more "regional" vs. Pilot) Heck, they all look the same....with those smoldering heaps around the pumps! Those adjusters get on my nerves too.

Just kidding folks. Do what you feel most comfortable with.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jun 2018 at 2:25pm
The worst part is having to wade through all the insurance adjusters in their khaki pants and blue nylon jackets.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jun 2018 at 2:19pm


There is a Pilot truck stop about 2 miles from my house. I take my propane tanks there for refilling. Every time I do this I become outraged.

I'm sick and tired of having to wade through the smoldering remains of countless RVs........all because they left their fridges turned on (propane) while refueling at the pumps.

Well.........not really.   


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jun 2018 at 11:01am
Uhmmm, the hose on the tank could spring a leak in the tunnel and blow the whole thing up Ermm.  I'll bet they make you turn off the LP gas valve when you're on a ferry boat.  And the flame on the fridge is also, as another poster pointed out, not exactly open, like a candle or a blow torch, in addition to not having a pilot light.  I say NO FLAMING TORCHES IN TUNNELS, unless you're welding on the boring machine.  

Seriously, though, LP in a tank is under pressure and if it does spring a leak it creates a significantly greater danger of explosion than if a gasoline line or the gas tank starts a slow drip.  I think that's why they want them turned off in ferryboats.  If you've ever been around a boat fire, it's pretty sobering.  No place to go but into Neptune's lair.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jun 2018 at 10:49am
Originally posted by lostagain

In tunnels??  How do LP powered vehicles make it through the tunnel if they have to turn off the gas?  Just curious.
Uhhh. You really asking that question? LP powered vehicles are still INTERNAL COMBUSTION engines. There is no pilot light or open flame. It's like gas, or diesel, or NG. Everything is inside the cylinders.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jun 2018 at 10:45am
Besides that, most of the time you're going to spend not more than about 10 minutes refueling, max.  You could turn the valve off for the time you're at the pump, then turn it back on as you leave.  If you have a long ferry ride or something the issue could be a problem, but there unless you're going to be in transit on the boat more than an hour, there  is enough insulation and carry over cold that it probably wouldn't make much difference anyway; unless, of course you're going from Rihad to the port of Dubai.

In tunnels??  How do LP powered vehicles make it through the tunnel if they have to turn off the gas?  Just curious.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jun 2018 at 8:20am
+1 to TARS. I have never been able to find a validated regulation that addresses propane reefers while refueling. I have seen tunnels and ferries where they post propane off and even places that verify your propane is off. There could be a liability issue if there was proof your reefer caused a fire at a refueling stop, but nowhere could I find that instance occurring.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jun 2018 at 8:03am
Are the propane refrigerator police really going to go into your Pod to check to see if the fridge is turned on with propane while you're filling up at your local Pilot or Flying J?  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jun 2018 at 7:52am
Originally posted by JAGMAR

(propane cooled refrigerators still have an open flame). 

They don't have an open flame.  I'd be interested in seeing an official definition of "open flame".  Candles, propane or welding torches, etc., have open flames.  I can't find anything that says an enclosed flame in an appliance is an open flame.  If the rule were "no flame" it might be different, but if there are open flames, it seems there must, therefore, be flames that are not open.  An RV fridge would seem to fit that bill.

I think the idea that there is a law that propane fridges must be turned off at gas stations is a myth.  Show me something official that says that.  (There are a million places that say that, but I can't find anything from any government or regulatory agency.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2018 at 9:25pm
Completely agree with GlueGuy. Running the frig on battery does not keep it as cold as the propane option or 110-120VAC. I ran the frig on battery when traveling for almost a year and could not ever get the temp below 42-43 even on mild days before I got smarter through reading many of these messages. I even went to the trouble of putting two pancake fans in the mechanical section to increase the air flow over the heat exchanger. Once ran the battery on the TV down to the point I needed a jump start. I was not a happy camper that morning.

 I could not get the frig to operated on propane when we traveled; thought I had a bad controller. It turns out FR (or Dometic) changed the propane system one Monday morning but forgot to train the production line; they left the air shield off of the pilot and going down the road kept blowing the pilot flame out. Thankfully they left the parts in the mechanical section. Someone else received a frig that was completely assembled (Tuesday's production). They sent me a photo so I could put the puzzle back together. 

Now I use propane in transit and shut it down before getting fuel or going oven bridges or through tunnels (propane cooled refrigerators still have an open flame). 
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