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Topic: 172 vs 179 Posted: 04 Jun 2018 at 8:43am |
Hi all, I have been looking for R-Pod for a few months. The best choice for my family (wife and 2 boys) I can find is 172. The kids really love the bunks. In fact, I do not have too many choices due to the TV. I will be using 2007 Toyota Sienna with tow prep package (3500 lbs towing capacity) to haul the TT, and I will not change TV in next 5 or 6 years as I’m planning to give it to my oldest son when he goes to high school. The closest dealer (2 miles away) do not have 172 in stock. The sales rep told me they could order it for me but the price he quoted was $2500 higher than another dealer (160 miles away). I prefer to buy it locally as I understand the local dealer do not obligate to work on my TT since I don’t buy it from them. I don’t know if there is a room to negotiate but I will try it in the next few days. The local dealer also have three 179 on sale. The weights on the labels are between 2921 – 2948 lbs. I assume the weights include dealer ordered options/dealer installed options. I think the minivan will handle 172 well with correct setup…..WDH w/ sway control, brake controller, etc. but I don’t know if it can handle 179 since it’s about 450 lbs heavier. There are 3 state parks near by so we just go to camp grounds for a couple of night during the weekend and I don’t need to load a lot of stuff. Any thoughts on this? Thank you.
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lostagain
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Posted: 04 Jun 2018 at 9:03am |
We have a 172 in which I took out the upper bunk and raised and, consequently, widened the lower bunk. There are two of us, as a general rule, using the trailer. and even with two it gets a little crowded. Assuming your 2 boys are pretty active you might find the 172 a little cramped.
As for your TV, the Sienna, with a 3500# towing capacity, you'll be grossly underpowered and will find it a little frustrating on the first long grade you come to, such as driving in the direction of CO. As long as you drive where it's flat, you'll probably find the Sienna adequate but marginal.
Maybe you should consider the cheaper 179 from your local dealer and buy a used pickup truck with the towing capacity to pull your Pod.
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Leo B
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Posted: 04 Jun 2018 at 10:21am |
We have a 179 and really like it. We used to tow it with our Dodge Grand Caravan. Never had a problem up and down the east coast from Vermont to Florida. We upgraded to an F-150 in preparation for going out west and heading to Alaska. We really like the large kitchen but the overall consensus is that the couch really sucks as a bed. So unless you made some type of mod or the kids were going to sleep in cots out in the rdome, they might not be comfortable.
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NAP1947
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Posted: 04 Jun 2018 at 11:04am |
Welcome Cannot, we have a 179 and tow with an AWD, v6, Venza and are pleased so far. Please carefully read your owners manual regarding towing, Toyota rates the Venza as 3500 pounds but unlike most others excludes the weight of 2 people, luggage for 2, towing package if equipped and a weight distribution hitch. To me this means closer to 4000 pounds. Just for your info I weighed our 179 with full propane, 2-60 pound batteries, about 2/3 tank of water and our stuff at 3087 pounds. It certainly handled both 2 lane and multi lane with steep hills very well and with the Andersen hitch we use I felt no sway from medium cross winds or transport truck/buses. Good luck, let us know what you decide.
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Cannot
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Posted: 04 Jun 2018 at 11:55am |
Originally posted by lostagain
Maybe you should consider the cheaper 179 from your local dealer and buy a used pickup truck with the towing capacity to pull your Pod. |
Thank you for the reply.
Space might be an issue but we will spend most of time outside. Should be ok.
I plan to buy a pickup truck once I give my van to my son. Don't really want to spend extra money on tow vehicle now.
Originally posted by Leo B
We have a 179 and really like it. We used to tow it with our Dodge Grand Caravan. Never had a problem up and down the east coast from Vermont to Florida. We upgraded to an F-150 in preparation for going out west and heading to Alaska. We really like the large kitchen but the overall consensus is that the couch really sucks as a bed. So unless you made some type of mod or the kids were going to sleep in cots out in the rdome, they might not be comfortable. |
Thank you for sharing.
The floorplan shows 75x45. It's probably not wide enough for kids.
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Cannot
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Posted: 04 Jun 2018 at 12:06pm |
Originally posted by NAP1947
It certainly handled both 2 lane and multi lane with steep hills very well and with the Andersen hitch we use I felt no sway from medium cross winds or transport truck/buses. Good luck, let us know what you decide.
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Thank you for sharing.
The dealer actually recommends Andersen hitch. Would you mind telling me what model you have?
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marwayne
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Posted: 04 Jun 2018 at 3:10pm |
From one Canadian to another. I hate to say it but you are full of it. The dry weight of the 179 is 2756#,2 batteries 120# 2/3 water 200# lp 48#. You have a total of 3124# and you haven't put a hairpin into the pod
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Posted: 04 Jun 2018 at 3:17pm |
Cannot,
I think you are OK with the 179, especially considering you add on tow options and the fact you are camping locally. If you were to head West into Colorado, I'd say you were light with your current TV. If in doubt after you outfit find a weigh station and know your actually weight. Folks have a tendency to overpack and then after a few trips realize they didn't use the stuff. You don't need multiple batteries and full tanks of fresh water. You can adapt.
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Cannot
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Posted: 04 Jun 2018 at 3:30pm |
Originally posted by marwayne
From one Canadian to another. I hate to say it but you are full of it. The dry weight of the 179 is 2756#,2 batteries 120# 2/3 water 200# lp 48#. You have a total of 3124# and you haven't put a hairpin into the pod |
That's why I prefer 172.....at least a few hundred pounds lighter.
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marwayne
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Posted: 04 Jun 2018 at 3:55pm |
We have a 2011-172, but there is only two of us, however we more or less sleep in the pod. In bad weather if were at the GC we play cards in the r-dome. The other thing we did not want was a slide, another mechanical thing that brakes down and a big hole that can leak. One other thing to check is the weight of the axle, ours came with a 3000# axle that we changed for a 3500#.
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