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StephenH
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6288 |
Topic: New Everything... Need Advice Posted: 24 Jun 2018 at 3:17pm |
That was a good and detailed account of towing with the Escape. We towed our 2016 RP179 with a 2016 Escape until we hit ice with a cross-wind. My experience parallels yours. We now tow with a 2010 Nissan Frontier but at significant altitudes, miss the power of the Escape's Ecoboost engine. The escape is not ideal, but it can work if one is aware of the limitations.
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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LMS
Newbie Joined: 16 May 2018 Location: Apopka, FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 3 |
Posted: 24 Jun 2018 at 2:58pm |
We're home from our initial 1200 mile shakedown cruise with our 2019 RP-189 towed by our 2017 Ford Escape. Some of you were on target... the vehicle tows very well up to about 60 mph. If good driving conditions, it can tow comfortably close to 65. With a load leveling, anti-sway hitch there are no control issues, including when braking, up to 55-60 mph. Cross-winds in excess of 35-40 mph are a problem but are an issue no matter what type of RV you have (I always parked my Class A in high wind conditions). We traveled I-75 south from Michigan to I-40 then cut across the Smokey Mountains to I-26 south. So we did have real mountain driving but not the severe grades you would find on 441 through the Smokey Mountains National Park or out west. Since the Escape has the select paddle shift option, I found that 5th gear was a comfortable level and maintained the engine around 2400 RPM (High gear, 6th gear just doesn't work). And, cruise control was usable on all but the steepest inclines and downgrades. Gas mileage averaged 15 MPG for the trip from MI to FL. Only on the steepest inclines did I find it necessary to downshift to 4th gear to maintain speed in the truck lane without stressing the engine. Downgrades were a breeze with only the occasional braking required. We were able to keep all weights just under max except for the car's rear axle which is running about 40 lbs overweight, total weights are within range. I think I can re-balance my load in the Pod a bit to get all weights within range.
Bottom line, if you are buying a tow vehicle to pull your Pod, don't select the Ford Escape, its #3500 lb capacity is undersize for an ideal tow. If you have a Ford Escape and want to tow a Pod, do it; but with caution and full awareness of your limitations. PS... We love our new Pod (named it 2 Peas in a Pod) and are looking forward to our next trip. The weather is a bit hot right now to enjoy local FL weekend outings but a couple of days on the beach is in our future.
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Lew
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Posted: 19 May 2018 at 5:53pm |
My 0-60mph times could be measured in minutes.....at those times that I could even do 60mph. I've been scoffed at many times for preaching nothing less than a V6 with a 5K towing capacity (V8 & full size is better). I do so for a reason. It helps to think ahead, as much as possible. There is no power to accelerate out of a problem - only brake. Plan accordingly. |
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mcarter
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Location: Greenbrier, TN Online Status: Offline Posts: 3419 |
Posted: 19 May 2018 at 5:38pm |
Yeah Buddy, and I'm sure you had a good attitude but you were a safe tower. Not somebody reliant on karma.
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Mike Carter
2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
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Posted: 19 May 2018 at 5:30pm |
It brings back fond memories of "foot to the floor" and only able to reach 45-50mph at times. It was not fun. There is no way in H@ll I would recommend a vehicle like that. If a person really wants a Pod (like I did).....just understand what you are getting into with a small tow vehicle. You can get down the road but, I can just about promise, it will not be a pleasant experience. Buying my Pod was very expensive. I had just purchased (new) the GMC Canyon in 2008. I purchased (new) the Pod in June-July 2009. In October 2009, I purchased (new) a Chevy Silverado 5.3 V8. My wallet was screaming! |
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mcarter
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Location: Greenbrier, TN Online Status: Offline Posts: 3419 |
Posted: 19 May 2018 at 4:59pm |
David, You may be right:) There is a ton of info on the interweb about towing with the Ford Escape, and most have towed the lighter Pods. My response was directed at the OP and the 189. He's at 80% without adding a single pound. At the risk of "patronizing", I guess best answer to a bad situation is a good attitude. Not being prepared. That's an afterthought. IMHO it's is an issue when a tow vehicle is at it's limits, we see it everyday on our highways. I see it in campgrounds. Honesty is a better policy than people pleasing.
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Mike Carter
2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
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Posted: 19 May 2018 at 2:02pm |
I think I still hold the record for the "most wimpy" tow vehicle - a 2008 GMC Canyon, 4 cyl., automatic, with a 3200lbs. tow capacity. It pulled my RP173 from central Indiana to Rocky Mts. National Park and back. It wasn't the most enjoyable drive that I have experienced. There were times when I could not maintain even the minimum posted speed limit on the highway. Headwinds were the biggest issue. My position regarding tow vehicles is: There is what I would recommend, and then, there's "what ya got". Can it be done? Yes. However, as mentioned above, you'll likely be shopping for something with a little more muscle as soon as you can. http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1050&KW=Rocky&PID=9239&title=rocky-mountain-high#9239 |
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ParPod
Senior Member Joined: 28 Oct 2016 Location: Manitoba Online Status: Offline Posts: 105 |
Posted: 19 May 2018 at 7:07am |
We started off towing with a 2012 Toyota Rav4 Sport V6 w/towing pkg. It was rated for 3500 lbs. so a similiar vehicle to the Explorer. We also had a E2 hitch set up. We were pulling our 179. The vehicle did it but just barely. We were always careful about what we put into both the Pod and Rav with respect to weight. Tanks were always empty and with exception of the odd valley/hill we're pretty flat here. I also had it on North Dakoka/Minnesota Interstates where we did alright as well......but it's pretty flat there too.
You're at your limit - no question but try it and see. I suspect that if you decide to stay with the Pod (and you should!) you're going to be looking for a vehicle upgrade.
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Bob&Margaret
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Happy Tripping
Senior Member Joined: 27 May 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 473 |
Posted: 18 May 2018 at 8:13pm |
Well, ....There is always a spectrum of risk in life, and individuals vary in their ability to handle risk, and risky situations. I don't personally think that driving an Escape automatically puts themselves and others at risk, and it's a little patronizing to say so, in my opinion. I agree that there are much better tow vehicles, but if this is the best one for them at this point, no one can say that they are wrong. They do have proper equipment - a tow package and a weight distribution hitch, and a good attitude.
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"There comes a time in the affairs of a man when he must take the bull by the tail and face the situation" - W.C. Fields
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mcarter
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Location: Greenbrier, TN Online Status: Offline Posts: 3419 |
Posted: 18 May 2018 at 5:17pm |
+1 - the rating is close but the Caravan as stated is longer and heavier. When it goes wrong there's not a lot of time to either change your mind or correct the bad decision. There is a ton of acceptable tow vehicles out there, why cut yourself short and put yourself and others in jeopardy. It makes no sense to me.
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Mike Carter
2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
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