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corpod172
Newbie Joined: 17 Apr 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 22 |
Topic: east vs west (standard vs hood river) 172 Posted: 19 Apr 2018 at 10:52pm |
I live in Colorado. My local dealer wants 20K to order a 172 HRE. but I see listings in Missouri for a 2019 172 for $13,999, and a 2018 HRE in Wyoming for $15,500. What causes these huge price differences? Is anyone in the loop on the real differences between east and west production?... I have been doing some digging and it seems the new east version has the same two steps, 15" wheels, maybe different tires?... not sure about the lift/ground clearance... please let me know if you know the real differences. I'm guessing the Indiana plant might produce more and have an advantage in terms of volume lowering cost?... thanks in advance.
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jato
Senior Member Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Kewadin, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 3221 |
Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 5:13am |
As far as I know the HRE has the diamond plating in front and around the wheel wells as well as the more "burly" looking off road tires that the Indiana versions don't. Also ground clearance is supposedly a bit higher with the HRE. That is all. Floor plans and and everything else - no difference. Seems like a huge price differential for only a few differences.
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Leo B
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Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 7:03am |
+1 that is my understanding also.
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Leo & Melissa Bachand
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StephenH
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6288 |
Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 7:19am |
The ones built in Goshen, Indiana do have the "diamond plate" protector on the front but not on the wheel wells. It is painted black and the body above it is also painted black and fades into the gray color of the roof on the blue models. On the older green models, the diamond plate ended and transitioned immediately to the off-white of the roof. I don't know about the even older ring models though.
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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Tars Tarkas
Senior Member Joined: 14 Jan 2013 Location: Near Nashville Online Status: Offline Posts: 1446 |
Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 7:30am |
I think I've heard that the Indiana versions all have axle risers now -- I'm not sure. If that's the case, the larger tires give the HREs about another 1/2 inch of ground clearance. Depending on how you feel about how much added protection the diamond plating offers, as far as I understand, the differences are just cosmetic.
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StephenH
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6288 |
Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 7:53am |
Our 2016 RP179 has 14" wheels and does have the risers. I thought that all the R-Pods now come with 15" wheels, whether HRE or Midwest editions. The axle was reclocked to supposedly eliminate the need for risers, but I have read that the reclocked axle does not raise the R-Pod quite as much as the blocks did. So some people have added blocks to the newer ones for additional ground clearance.
Other than the more aggressive tires on the HRE edition, it is my understanding also that the differences are mainly cosmetic. Some have said that the construction quality of the HRE editions is a little better also but I can't verify that. |
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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mjlrpod
Senior Member Joined: 27 Sep 2016 Location: Massachusetts Online Status: Offline Posts: 1214 |
Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 9:20am |
I picked up my 2017.5 RP-172 in april 2017. It was the first run blue pod, with the blue roof. I "believe" everything after that was lifted, and came with 15 inch tires. I think if you check on the tire sizes, you'll know if its "lifted" 14 inch tires, not, 15 inch tires is lifted. As i said, I "think" that is all true.
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DavMar
Senior Member Joined: 04 Aug 2017 Location: Lexington, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 592 |
Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 9:55am |
As for the OP question of prices I believe if I was you, corpod172, I would be looking at traveling to buy your Pod since your local 20K sounds awful high to me. Remember this if your local dealer is an authorized Forest River dealer you can always get your Pod serviced by them no matter where you buy it. You can also take any price you find such as in Missouri and offer them to beat or match the price if they want a sale? At most the only price difference between a HRE and "standard" non HRE Pod should be no more then a few hundred bucks.
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StephenH
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6288 |
Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 10:16am |
However, don't count on a dealer servicing an R-Pod purchased elsewhere. If the dealer will do it, it will be at the back of the line behind locally purchased ones. This is not like auto dealers where any Ford dealer or Chevy dealer will service autos purchased elsewhere. There are enough posts in this forum about Forest River recommending to "buy local" and enough posts about local dealers being unwilling to service R-Pods purchased at places like Couch to take it for granted that your local dealer would be willing to service one you purchased elsewhere. Check first.
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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furpod
Moderator Group - pHp Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Location: Central KY Online Status: Offline Posts: 6128 |
Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 10:38am |
This is.. "if they choose to" what Stephen H says is true. Non selling dealers can, and have on many occasions, refused to service units they didn't sell. Now.. given that you may beat the local dealer's price by $6K.. if you have an issue, and need said local dealer to fix it, and they won't honor your warranty.. you pay for it, and you subtract that amount from your "savings"... Or you find a dealer that will work on it. FR absolutely advises owners to buy local, for this very reason.. Only you can decide is it's going to be an issue for YOU. Most pods never return to a dealer for anything.. some do. Mine didn't. My sister's didn't. |
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