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Happy Tripping
Senior Member Joined: 27 May 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 473 |
Topic: Anti Sway Hitch Posted: 24 Nov 2017 at 9:41am |
This topic is a classic example of the biggest controversies occurring when each party is partly right, and each partly wrong.
ASSUMING - the tv/trailer combo is properly balanced to begin with, sway will, I believe, only occur when OUTSIDE forces (wind gusts, curvy roads etc) hit the trailer/tv combo. Most of these can be controlled by a friction sway bar alone, more serious ones require a wdh and in the the worst cases, both fail and over we go. So, that said, does the capability to selectively hit the brakes of the trailer when sway begins play a significant role in preventing accidents? I've found this to be effective in those very infrequent times when I've experienced early trailer sway.
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JandL
Senior Member Joined: 29 Mar 2014 Location: California Online Status: Offline Posts: 364 |
Posted: 24 Nov 2017 at 10:53am |
Here are some very good technical articles on trailer tow dynamics. Here are some to read
Caravan and tow vehicle dynamics – how and why trailer and tow vehicles interact Caravan dynamics simply explained – a plain English version of my main article Need for a WDH – avoid using one if possible Reducing caravan sway – here’s how to minimise the causes Weight distribution hitch setting up – how much correction is needed Caravan/Tow Vehicle Behaviour & Suspension |
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JandL
2013 Honda Ridgeline 2012 177 2 Paynes in a Pod |
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ZuBrew
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 11 Oct 2017 Location: Macedon, NY Online Status: Offline Posts: 113 |
Posted: 24 Nov 2017 at 1:49pm |
Sorry I forgot to post what my R-Pod is. It's the new 189 and I'll be towing it with a 2008 Tacoma V6. I had a pop up I towed before and that was no trouble. I've never towed a full size camper though.
Thanks for all the information. I'm still reading through everyone's replys but wanted to post this.
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RichF
Newbie Joined: 17 Nov 2017 Location: South Carolina Online Status: Offline Posts: 5 |
Posted: 24 Nov 2017 at 3:52pm |
Congratulations, I will be picking up a 190 on 12/6. The dry
bath is what sold us. Had to flip a coin between the 189 & 190. |
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mcarter
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Location: Greenbrier, TN Online Status: Offline Posts: 3419 |
Posted: 24 Nov 2017 at 5:12pm |
Happy Tripping,
The standard answer is the application of TRAILER BRAKES using the manual slide if equipped and gently applying trailer brakes is the accepted norm, vehicle brakes is not the right solution, reduce speed and slow trailer with brake controller. Takes foresight, experience and coordination. Not something UHaul says when they rent you a trailer. You still need a capable vehicle and a properly weight loaded trailer to assist in reduction. Sway bars and WDHs are reasonable assistance. Agree with your comment. |
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Mike Carter
2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
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StephenH
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6288 |
Posted: 24 Nov 2017 at 6:26pm |
If one has the time and presence of mind to hit the manual brake control for the trailer and apply them, it could help. When we had our accident, it was not something I thought of until after the fact. It might have helped, but I will never know. We did have an Equal-i-zer 4-point sway control hitch and it was insufficient when we hit the ice with the crosswind. I purchased the Hayes Sway-Master electronic sway control and installed it. It will apply the brakes if it detects a sway condition without me having to remember in the midst of a situation. Hopefully, we will never have to prove that it works, but it is an added bit of insurance. |
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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ParPod
Senior Member Joined: 28 Oct 2016 Location: Manitoba Online Status: Offline Posts: 105 |
Posted: 25 Nov 2017 at 8:29am |
JandL - what I could get open was very intresting reading indeed. Thus far I've not experienced the events the article speaks to in Need of a WDH but it is something to watch for. Thanks for posting the information.
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Bob&Margaret
2017 179 2016 Toyota 4Runner 2 sets of Golf Clubs |
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mcarter
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Location: Greenbrier, TN Online Status: Offline Posts: 3419 |
Posted: 25 Nov 2017 at 9:09am |
SH,
I have been wondering how that Sway-Master was working for you. AND I agree you have to have presence of mind to operate manual brake, which can be tough in a sway situation. |
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Mike Carter
2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
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StephenH
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6288 |
Posted: 25 Nov 2017 at 8:21pm |
I have felt it activate a couple of times when I was on a rough road in Vermont. The situation I encountered in Wyoming is one where the Hayes advertising indicates it would have been helpful. While I don't want to test it deliberately, if we ever get into such a situation again, I believe it will be useful.
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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mcarter
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Location: Greenbrier, TN Online Status: Offline Posts: 3419 |
Posted: 26 Nov 2017 at 6:29pm |
Good comments, THANKS, as I get older I wonder how my reaction will be, I know what to do, doing it is a different issue.
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Mike Carter
2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
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