When to winterize - 32 F or lower? - Event Date: 22 Oct 2017 - 22 Dec 2018

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   We like fall camping in New Mexico and Colorado! When should we winterize? As soon as it hits 32 degrees? How low can we go?
What is the danger zone for tubing and tanks?
Is there a way to practically insulate exposed tubing?
Do we really have to shut down until spring?

Thanks,
Peregrino (aka. Enrique)

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Peregrino Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 22 Oct 2017 Location: Albuquerque, NM Online Status: Offline Posts: 1	Calendar Event: When to winterize - 32 F or lower? Posted: 22 Oct 2017 at 12:33pm
	We like fall camping in New Mexico and Colorado! When should we winterize? As soon as it hits 32 degrees? How low can we go? What is the danger zone for tubing and tanks? Is there a way to practically insulate exposed tubing? Do we really have to shut down until spring? Thanks, Peregrino (aka. Enrique)
	Enrique

mcarter Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Location: Greenbrier, TN Online Status: Offline Posts: 3419	Posted: 22 Oct 2017 at 12:43pm
	Short answer is NO. I have camped in mine in winter. I don't winterize until I am putting it away or not going to use it for an extended period of time. There are precautions you can take, for example when camping in winter I use a heated water hose if city water is on site. The TT will undoubtedly have heat. The real issue is when the temps drop cold and stay cold, that can be dangerous. Some folks actually skirt their TTS, a DIY project or even bales of hay. Personally I think it's a mistake to think it is a 4 season, all-weather camper.
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john in idaho Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 04 Nov 2014 Location: Eagle Idaho Online Status: Offline Posts: 611	Posted: 22 Oct 2017 at 1:27pm
	Even if you insulate the pipes etc, there is nothing generating heat to maintain above freezing temps. We have camped in cold weather. Carry bottled water, and if you want hot water, light the stove. The black tank has enough salts that freezing may not be a problem. Just pretend you are camping in a really nice tent with a heater.

StephenH Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6288	Posted: 22 Oct 2017 at 3:44pm
	Our experience is that we traveled with a water carrier and heated water on the stove. We did use the toilet and used the gray water also, but only minimally (tooth brushing mainly). We used RV antifreeze for flushing #2 and to add a little liquid after flushing #1. If the temperatures get above freezing during the day, you may be okay with not winterizing, but if they are going to get down to freezing and stay there, you would do well to winterize and dry camp. As John said, think really nice tent with heater. To save gas, turn the heater down while you are sleeping and turn it up to comfortable temps while you are awake. That will save propane.
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Tars Tarkas Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 14 Jan 2013 Location: Near Nashville Online Status: Offline Posts: 1446	Posted: 22 Oct 2017 at 7:02pm
	We camp most anytime. In and around Tennessee winter camping is hard to plan though. If we're going to the Smokies in January, and the days are in the 50s, I may leave everything "summerized", but I'll take a couple of gallons of antifreeze just in case. If I know temps are going to be too cold, I'll winterize, as other have suggested, and carry bottled drinking water. Plumbing is really nice, but even without water, the Pod is warm, comfy, and convenient. We've camped with water with nights into the mid to low 20s with no problem. Sustained temps below 32F are just about impossible to protect the Pod plumbing against though without winterizing. TT
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Larry-D Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 12 Oct 2017 Location: Middle TN Online Status: Offline Posts: 109	Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 8:20am
	Here I sit in the Rpod with the outside temp. Of 38 degrees. Using a Vornado electric heater on low and turned way down the Pod stayed at 72 degrees all night. If you haven’t tried a Vornado they are great and highly recommend on other RV forums. Our 28” TT is insulated and has heat ducting running through the underfloor area. Since the Rpod has its underside exposed the plumbing is obviously exposed to ambient temps. If there’s not water in the plumbing it can’t freeze so off you can go. RV antifreeze in the grey and black tank should keep you going with the temps drop. Bottled water and the stove provide what you need.