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GlueGuy
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Topic: Towing setup for new RP176 Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 8:09pm |
Originally posted by JandL
•Class II Trailer Hitch mounts directly to the frame for optimum performance, strength, and security. |
I should point out that the Honda Odyssey is unibody, which means that it has no frame. I would hope that some sort of reinforcement is done to prevent the hitch from "pulling through" the sheet metal.
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Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 7:28pm |
Thanks to all for your feedback and recommendations. One can't be picky when asking for advice on an Internet forum. To me all opinions are appreciated but I prefer to keep things respectful.
There is always more to this topic than numbers and towing within the limits is what I intend to do. Taking into account not just the tow rating but the GAWRs and GCWR. We camp light as we come from tenting for the past 15 years with high quality, lightweight gear. I fully intend to weigh my vehicle setup 'camp ready' and work within my means. I am tedious about maintenance on my vehicles which I know also plays a factor.
I do not currently have the tow package but will be having it installed.
Thanks again for the input. If anyone else has experience or advice please add to the thread.
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Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 6:37pm |
Hot topic. Obviously. A lot of opinions and many different experiences. My take is that a whole lot of towing safety has to do with the nut behind the wheel, as they say. If you are smart and careful and manage to stay within the limits, you'll likely be okay. When you exceed the limits things can get wonky quickly. Some people will say it's still doable, but at the least, there may be legal implications to you if you're in an accident, even if it's not your fault. As GlueGuy said too, you're taking chances with your kids' well-being as well.
If you can stay within the weight limits or close enough you aren't uncomfortable with the risks, there is still the issue of wear and tear on your towing vehicle, and, quite likely, the overall pleasure (or lack thereof) of going down the road.
If you can do a heavier duty tow vehicle you almost certainly will be happier. As someone here says, we've never heard anyone complain about having too much tow vehicle.
I'll tow one-off deals where I have to move farm equipment around the county that is clearly over the weight limit of my vehicle, but to go down the road on a pleasure trip, with my wife and kids, I'd much rather color well within the lines.
You did well to check in here. There is a lot of good information shared here. Ask questions; listen, digest; but what you do is ultimately up to you. As I said, you obviously touched a nerve this time!
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Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 6:01pm |
+1 David. Interestingly same people, different posts.
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JandL
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Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 1:51pm |
Did you get the Towing Package? A class II hitch is only rated for 3500 lbs. gross trailer weight with a 300 lbs. max trailer tongue weight. On Pages 401-402 of the owner’s manual they talk about towing a Trailer and it’s limits. It also states in the owners manual
Weight distribution hitches
A weight distributing hitch is not recommended for use with your vehicle.
An improperly adjusted weight distributing hitch may reduce handling, stability, and
braking performance.
Fits: LX, EX, EX-L, EX-L RES, EX-L RES & NAVI, EX-L Touring RES & NAVI
You can haul trailers weighing up to 3,500 pounds with the Towing Package. Check out your Owner's Manual for more details on towing with your new Honda.
•Class II Trailer Hitch mounts directly to the frame for optimum performance, strength, and security.
•A choice from 1 7/8" or a 2" receiver designed to support a variety of trailer coupler designs.
•Trailer Hitch includes draw bar, retaining pin, and retaining clip.
•Automatic Transmission Fluid cooler (ATF) helps prevent wear to your transmission while towing.
•Power Steering Fluid cooler (PSF) is designed to keep your vehicle operating at peak performance even under the increased demands of towing.
•Specifically designed cooler air duct assist in directing air flow over the cooler.
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Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 1:41pm |
Originally posted by eye95
Advising someone to do something the engineering by these manufacturers reveals is dangerous is irresponsible on your part.I hope that nothing goes wrong if someone follows your advice. If something does, I hope that you are not held legally responsible. Folks, don't just take advice you get from a message board. Check the numbers for yourself BEFORE you do the stupid thing you have been advised to do! Moving on. |
Maybe I'm misinterpreting this post but.........
I wish you would have stopped after the first post. The second and third posts sound "personally confrontational". You are entitled to express your opinion, as you did in the first. However, other members (such as Leo) are entitled to express their opinions and real experiences, also. Stating that other members post "stupid" advice, I find offensive. It will not be allowed. 10-4?
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Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 12:25pm |
I agree that you need to be very aware of the limits of your TV. If your TV is rated at X, and your trailer weighs X + 10%, then you are clearly in an undefined territory. Can you get away with it. Possibly. What's your life, your family, and your equipment worth to you?
We did massive overkill with our TV. When we tow, it is pleasant, and relaxing. That is worth a lot.
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Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 11:42am |
I would not do it. Some do it and have no problems, but you will be exceeding your vehicles maximum rated towing capability. It is recommended that you have at least a 20% margin between your trailer weight and your vehicle tow rating which would be 2800 lbs.
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Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 11:19am |
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Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 11:09am |
Advising someone to do something the engineering by these manufacturers reveals is dangerous is irresponsible on your part.
I hope that nothing goes wrong if someone follows your advice. If something does, I hope that you are not held legally responsible.
Folks, don't just take advice you get from a message board. Check the numbers for yourself BEFORE you do the stupid thing you have been advised to do!
Moving on.
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