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GlueGuy ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2702 |
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If you check out the Lippert axle on the RP179, you will note that it's rated for around 4400 lbs, which is well over the GVWR of the RP179. I think the designers felt that was sufficient to compensate for the cantilever stress. Unfortunately, there are many all-to-typical situations where road conditions effectievly cancel that.
Instead of enlarging the entire frame, they could probably done a little "kick out" in the 3-5 foot zone of the axle and slide out, and that would have been sufficient to fix both of those issues. Saddly, that's not the way it's gone.
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2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River 2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost |
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wvanauken ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 13 Mar 2019 Online Status: Offline Posts: 29 |
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My axle is rated 3500 lbs on my 180. Forest River is currently gathering all my info and am not sure where they are going with it. Probably offer me a new axle. I'm a bit hesitant on this. I mean if they provide a new axle plus install the out rigger supports, that would be great right? It's just that when I first got the trailer, there were many many things wrong with it. Sure...all the issues were fixed at the dealer and some I fixed myself, but it was a nightmare as there were about 17 issues I addressed with them. I had no use of the unit for the first 2-3 months while the dealership had the unit and was going back and forth communication with FR. FR actually cut me a check for $500 to compensate me for my trouble, frustration, hassle and leg work. I requested the compensation and they agreed, but this was only after I provided them with a write up and pics, and then had to convince them that sure the items were covered under the warranty, but I impressed upon them that the warranty should be for the things that might go wrong after you start using it like insurance. Not for deficiencies that were there when the unit left the factory. And the dealership for all there hard work were really caught in the middle. Afterall, the factory was taking advantage of them and other dealerships I suppose for using them to fix their mistakes and poor workmanship. Anyway, I'm just hesitant and anxious about turning the unit back to them for who knows how long especially knowing their poor workmanship. Would really appreciate your thoughts and maybe suggestions to help here. I've appreciated your feed back on this as well as everyone else's.
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gpokluda ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Nov 2018 Location: NM Online Status: Offline Posts: 392 |
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I don't have my 179 any more, but I am pretty sure my axle was only rated at 3500 lbs as well. I remember because my dry weight was 3100lbs so we only had 400lbs of added weight to work with.
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Gpokluda
2017 Rpod 179(sold 2023) 2022 Escape 5.0TA 2022 Ford F150 4X4 3.5EB Kawasaki KLR650 |
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StephenH ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6417 |
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It isn't exclusive to R-Pods. Forest River makes the Cherokee Grey Wolf I have now. I am still finding things that aren't right. One of the more recent ones was that trying to connect cable to the system and then turning off the antenna amplifier, I could not get the TV to get a clear picture from the cable. I had the park check the pole and we narrowed it down to the trailer. I thought it was the trailer wiring. I am not sure now. I think it may be the plate with the booster. I could get a clear picture with the TV connected directly to the park's cable. I could not do so when trying to run through the trailer's cable.
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Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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GlueGuy ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2702 |
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The axle would be rated at 4400 lbs if it weren't for the cantilevered connection to the inboard frame. It is de-rated to 3500 lbs because of that, at least that was my understanding way back when.
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2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River 2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost |
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StephenH ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6417 |
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+1 on the axle derating.
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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CAPTKIDD ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 19 Feb 2022 Location: CA Online Status: Offline Posts: 25 |
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I have an RPod 186 and had to replace a bent Lippert axel after only 5,000 miles and guess what the new replacement axel only lasted less than 600 miles. Lippert is not offering any compensation. My new axel will be a Dexter. Down time is 6 to 8 weeks. Hopefully the Dexter will last a lot longer.
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wvanauken ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 13 Mar 2019 Online Status: Offline Posts: 29 |
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So the million dollar question is: Why exactly has Lippert replaced these axles. I haven't heard one thing about that yet.
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CAPTKIDD ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 19 Feb 2022 Location: CA Online Status: Offline Posts: 25 |
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I assume you are talking about my axels and the answer is they were bent.
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wvanauken ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 13 Mar 2019 Online Status: Offline Posts: 29 |
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