FR 50 to 30 amp warning

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   I don't have any warnings either. I just got back from a 4000 mile trip to Indiana. Was going to Cape Cod,MA for some lobster and clams. However, “Florence” made us change our mind. The Pod performed as expected with no dropped black tank drain falling,or Constancy tires blowing up, or converter quiting,or refer beeping, or water getting in. We had some very rough roads, and really hard rain with hail. Yet we had a great time in our travelling Marriott suite.

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lgblau Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 09 Feb 2018 Location: Arizona Online Status: Offline Posts: 140	Topic: FR 50 to 30 amp warning Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 6:12pm
	I don't have any warnings either. I just got back from a 4000 mile trip to Indiana. Was going to Cape Cod,MA for some lobster and clams. However, “Florence” made us change our mind. The Pod performed as expected with no dropped black tank drain falling,or Constancy tires blowing up, or converter quiting,or refer beeping, or water getting in. We had some very rough roads, and really hard rain with hail. Yet we had a great time in our travelling Marriott suite.
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GlueGuy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2702	Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 7:28pm
	If I was really concerned about it, I would use the dogbone plus something like this inline waterproof circuit breaker.
	bp 2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River 2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost

offgrid Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290	Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 6:48am
	GlueGuy, if you could find one of those that was 120Vac rated that would work, but that one is only rated for 24Vdc. Probably couldn't clear a 120V arc so just as likely to start a fire as to prevent one. I couldn't find a 120Vac rated one when I looked. I'm a little surprised that some of you don't have that label on your trailers, its required by the NEC now so Forest River has to put it on there. They get inspected for that kind of thing. Just speculating that it may have come out as a requirement in the 2014 code cycle. My trailer is a 2015 so it has it, just under the ac power inlet. If you do use the 50 to 30 dog bone and don't have the label that is a good thing, if you ever did get into an argument with your insurance company about liability Anyhow I have no issues with anyone who wants to use the 50A to 30A dog bones. Like they say, everyone is entitled to their own opinion but not their own facts. We've clearly discussed/maybe over discussed the risks and rewards here so everyone knows the facts and is in a great place to make a well informed personal decision. That's one thing I like about this forum.
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StephenH Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6417	Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 9:33am
	I could not find a 120V inline circuit breaker, but I did find a Cooper Wiring Devices inline GFI device suitable for outdoor use.There are other models with longer lengths and/or plugs already attached at higher prices.
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offgrid Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290	Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 11:47am
	StephenH, that is a good find. This one already I think has the correct connectors if you can get a dog bone with a locking female connector on the 30a end. Not much more $ and that way you get a fully listed assembly. https://www.amazon.com/Cooper-Wiring-Devices-GFI13M144-30A120V/dp/B00DUGJX4U This would leave only the 2 ft cord on the input end to this device that wasn't rated for 50A. Of course, we all know that GFCI's can be prone to nuisance tripping so that might become an issue for some users.
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GlueGuy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2702	Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 11:47am
	My bad for not noting that was for 12VDC. Hubbell also makes an inline GFCI breaker made for 120VAC/30 amps (other voltages and amperage ratings as well), but it is kind of pricey: https://www.gordonelectricsupply.com/index~text~6019698~path~product~part~6019698~ds~dept~process~search?gclid=Cj0KCQjwrZLdBRCmARIsAFBZllELPAmgs86UJ-zDo2Nm-iIaP8NFoNsn8lONX0TJymNO0kl_7kWSiTYaAkNjEALw_wcB
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offgrid Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290	Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 12:59pm
	Another good find GlueGuy. Looks pretty similar to the Cooper one StephenH found. Both are good companies, can't go wrong. Spendy though for sure. Looks like there are longer cord length and connector combinations available with the Hubbell one so one thought might be to go straight to the trailer power inlet with the output cable from this and avoid having one more exposed connection and cord to carry around. Just bring this one and the 50A dog bone adapter, should be set. And it would help with the concern raised in one of the posts about missing the 30A circuit breaker at the pedestal. Manual set/reset allows it to be used as a shutoff without having to pull a live connection. Also trips on open or grounded neutral.
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GlueGuy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2702	Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 2:54pm
	It might be easiest to build your own dogbone with an inline NEMA 3 enclosure inline and put a simple circuit breaker inside. Small NEMA enclosures are relatively cheap, as are 30amp CBs.
	bp 2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River 2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost

Keith-N-Dar Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 03 Apr 2011 Location: Mayville, WI Online Status: Offline Posts: 1447	Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 3:21pm
	Sounds like business opportunity to me.
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mcarter Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Location: Greenbrier, TN Online Status: Offline Posts: 3419	Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 3:52pm
	+1 Keith, might want to d a marketing survey first.
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