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David and Danette ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Nov 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1222 |
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Michaeln with our Vibe we have about 330 lb tongue weight and when we tow it with our Ram 1500 we have used a Equalizer 4 point sway control 6,000 lb hitch and we can feel the difference with it but not a lot. I have towed with the WDH and without it I can not tell a big difference. I think with your Tacoma I would try lowering the L brackets you will lose some of the sway control because that works by friction. But I think you would get some advantage with the hitch. I wouldn't give up on it, I would try different adjustments with the L brackets. With our Vista we have the same Equalizer hitch except it is the next size up the 1,000 lb hitch but the hitch weight is about 600 lbs. and we can feel a difference with it from when we tried the our 6,000 lb hitch. Equalizer has good support I would skip etrailer and call the equalizer manufacture and explain your situation I am sure they will be of help.
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2012 Vibe 6503 (2014-2019) 2009 r-pod 171 (2009-2014) Middle Tn 2014 Ram 1500 Quad cab |
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lostagain ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Quaker Hill, CT Online Status: Offline Posts: 2595 |
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We have a Fastway e2 round bar 6000/600 and it works exceptionally well for our Dakota. Even in high cross-winds it keeps the ride smooth and stable. It's probably a little more than our 172 needs, but we've never had any sway issues ever. Of course, that's not to say it will never happen, but with moderate speeds and a reasonably well balanced load, it's works so far.
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Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
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offgrid ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
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I was thinking about getting an e2 hitch based on the positive comments on this forum but now reading this I'm not so sure. It sounds like the way its designed the hitch sway control friction is reduced with lower spring bar tension. So if your tongue weight is low you will be setting your spring tension lower, which in turn will give you less sway control right when you need it most (low tongue weight). Am I missing something here?
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michaeln ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Dec 2018 Location: Avery, CA Online Status: Offline Posts: 40 |
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OffGrid you are correct. The sway control is going to be proportional to the amount of force there is holding the trunnion bars to the L brackets.
In my case even with the minimum WD setting (5 washers, L brackets in the lowest setting), it still over corrects, but the bars are so loose I can lift them off the L brackets by hand with only 10-15lbs of pressure. That is not going to provide any noticeable sway control. The other issue is that when I have the L brackets in the lowest holes the angle of the trunnion bars is enough different from the angle of the L bracket friction surface that it really just makes point contact between the two for absolutely minimum contact of the friction surfaces.
I'm sure the e2 is a good unit. Just not for MY particular setup with the lightest R-Pod (171) and a 2018 Tacoma 4x4 V6 with upgraded suspension. |
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GlueGuy ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2702 |
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offgrid ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
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Thanks michaeln,
I have a Reese Pro wdh. The issues I have with it are that it is quite time consuming to hook up because the sway control is done with two separate friction bars that have to be installed in addition to the trunnion bars, and that there is no room to adjust where the trunnion bar chain brackets attach to the A frame. The separately adjustable sway control bars are now starting to look like an advantage. The inability to change the A frame mounting points is still a problem for me though. Guess I'll do some more reasearch.
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texman ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jul 2014 Location: TeXas Online Status: Offline Posts: 446 |
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i have a fastway E2 600lb. trunnion wdh as well. It works well. Look at the pic from the instructions. figure 2a and 2b. The top bolt that attaches the ball assembly to the receiver that goes in the vehicle has a slotted opening that should allow you to make the top of the ball assembly make contact to the rivet without much help from the bolt at the bottom. Will yours not make contact if you do that? I have 420lbs of tongue weight w/o water. Hope this makes sense....
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GlueGuy ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2702 |
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The recommendation on our F-150 is to use a WDH if the tongue weight exceeds 500 lbs. So we are on the edge of that, as our tongue weight at the high end is around 570 lbs. We opted to go with the WDH, and we use the E2. We have plenty of tension on the WD bars, as we have to crank the tongue up quite a ways to get them to go on in the first place. We also have a Tacoma, which has much lower ratings, and is a lighter vehicle as well. I am positive that we would use a WDH if we towed with it. No question. So your issue is that you're putting something in the neighborhood of 400 lbs (give or take) on the receiver of your Tacoma. Given the moment arm, that is (for sure) reducing the weight on your steering wheels. Probably something on the order of 100 lbs, but I have not done the math. I personally think that the mods you made on your suspension are leading you astray. With the lighter capacities of the Tacoma, I think you would be better off with a WDH. I would suggest that you go to this web site and plug in the numbers to see where you're at.
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texman ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jul 2014 Location: TeXas Online Status: Offline Posts: 446 |
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better pic i think. the instructions do not say that you have to do this i dont think as i reread.
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michaeln ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Dec 2018 Location: Avery, CA Online Status: Offline Posts: 40 |
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I have more than used up the enthusiasm I had for this project and device. I will not be pursuing it any further. Thanks to everyone for your helpful posts, no further assistance is needed.
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