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offgrid
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Topic: Tires Again! Posted: 31 Jan 2021 at 11:39am |
lostagain, it is not reasonable to suggest that my position is that when there is no data all products are functionally identical. No engineer would ever suggest such a thing.
Lack of data is exactly that, lack of data. There is no way currently available to us to discern which trailer tires are better than others or if they are indeed the same. The anecdotal information is not useful and has other very likely explanations which we have already discussed.
And the argument that I should spend more money on a product because that manufacturer might have deeper pockets or be easier to sue in case I ever wanted to do that doesn’t appeal to me at all. 😱
I have said several times that each of us is free to decide whether to base their tire purchase on brand. I am fine if you choose to do so. I choose not to. For some reason you refuse to accept that as a reasonable decision on my part.
In my view we have more than beaten this topic to death at this point and it’s time to move on.
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lostagain
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Posted: 31 Jan 2021 at 2:01pm |
Again, using your logic, since there is no data, buying a set of box end wrenches out of the dollar bin at Tractor Supply are just as good as buying an identical set of Snap-On wrenches, and one is just throwing his money away.
So those Carolina made in USA by union labor moccasin toe boots I bought to work on Habitat for Humanity houses were a giant waste of money when I could have bought something that looks similar at Wally World for half the price. No thanks, my friend, I'd prefer to spend my money supporting union shops in the USA. And, I'll give you ten to one odds that my union made boots will last more far, far longer than those Wally World knockoffs.
More often than not, you pay for what you get. It's not unreasonable to buy the cheapest widget you can if it meets your needs, but when it comes to life safety issues, like tires, you may want to dig a little deeper before choosing your tires. A bad choice can be fatal not only for you but also for the innocent bystander.
Yes, it's time to move on.
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Posted: 31 Jan 2021 at 3:38pm |
Did I open a can of worms! I only posted because I have never towed a single axle trailer. (as stated before 3 axle and 2 axle for 20 years ) My main concern was buying the best tire for the job. D rated seems to be the best compromise for load and towing comfort ( E having to stiffer sidewall ) Now I will not skimp on safety, both in tires and brakes, not worth saving the $ IMHO. So that being said I probably will change to Goodyear when the 180 arrives. Next post set of 3 original tire for sale !!!!!
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lostagain
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Posted: 31 Jan 2021 at 3:45pm |
Not to worry deanj, it's a valid question that has been discussed many times in the past and continues to be an ongoing issue. My next set of tires will be Goodyear too.
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Posted: 31 Jan 2021 at 5:02pm |
deanj,
I think you can't go wrong with them. I took a walk around my stuff today, I have two flatbed trailers, a Pod, numerous pieces of lawn and garden equipment and have owned numerous types of tow behind stuff (car haulers, etc.). All of them have Carlisle tires. Used them for years. I consider them a leader in the specialty tire business. D is good choice.
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Posted: 31 Jan 2021 at 5:19pm |
Originally posted by mcarter
deanj,
I think you can't go wrong with them. I took a walk around my stuff today, I have two flatbed trailers, a Pod, numerous pieces of lawn and garden equipment and have owned numerous types of tow behind stuff (car haulers, etc.). All of them have Carlisle tires. Used them for years. I consider them a leader in the specialty tire business. D is good choice. |
+1 I will be getting 3 new Carlisle "D" tires for the 177 this spring. Carlisle has been around the block and have proven to be a leader in quality tires w/o getting political and I like that. It is for that reason I got rid of my Goodyears.
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Posted: 31 Jan 2021 at 6:10pm |
Originally posted by lostagain
Again, using your logic, since there is no data, buying a set of box end wrenches out of the dollar bin at Tractor Supply are just as good as buying an identical set of Snap-On wrenches, and one is just throwing his money away. So those Carolina made in USA by union labor moccasin toe boots I bought to work on Habitat for Humanity houses were a giant waste of money when I could have bought something that looks similar at Wally World for half the price. No thanks, my friend, I'd prefer to spend my money supporting union shops in the USA. And, I'll give you ten to one odds that my union made boots will last more far, far longer than those Wally World knockoffs. More often than not, you pay for what you get. It's not unreasonable to buy the cheapest widget you can if it meets your needs, but when it comes to life safety issues, like tires, you may want to dig a little deeper before chosing your tires. A bad choice can be fatal not only for you but also for the innocent bystander. Yes, it's time to move on.
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Ok to move on as long as you have the last word eh? 😜
I am open to considering additional data. What digging a little deeper do you suggest? I have checked the same sources as you have. Nada.
As for Snapon vs Harbor Freight, I can see those differences in the tools objectively and there is a clear warranty difference as well. But still, Harbor Freight might work just fine for most folks. I support unions too so I could be convinced to buy a tire made with union labor, but that would not in itself assure the quality of the product. That is a management responsibility.
And suggestIng that my choice of tire brand is putting innocent bystanders at risk is too much of a stretch, even for an attorney. 😄
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Posted: 31 Jan 2021 at 6:44pm |
"In my view we have more than beaten this topic to death at this point and it’s time to move on."
Plus 1.
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Posted: 31 Jan 2021 at 7:05pm |
Originally posted by deanj
Did I open a can of worms! |
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Posted: 31 Jan 2021 at 8:18pm |
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