Originally posted by offgrid
Re the strength of a weld, a good welder can make a weldment just as strong as the steel he or she is welding (emphasis on good welder using the proper technique for that weld). If we're talking about adding a doubler tube under the existing tube that is a pretty benign thing to weld because the mating surfaces of the two parts will be at or near the neutral axis of the weldment. The neutral axis is the cross section where there will be no stress (in other words, the location where the parts transition from being in compression to tension when placed under load). |
With a bit more research, I find that properly done, the weld can actually be stronger than the parent metal. That does surprise me! I always thought there would be some give in the process.
Live and learn! Thank you for the input.
Now, for fun of this conversation and how our tongue frame is done. 2x4x.1 steel is everywhere. Being the tongue is welded to the front cross member vs. the tongue being the through member. My mind goes towards the tongue going through would be stronger due to the 'hollow' of the 2x4x.10 cross member. I would think the moments (see, I am learning.. I think..) happening in the tongue frame are greater than those of the cross member.
I do think that stacking (not sure of correct term being it would be under) in our existing position would do the deed to enforce the tongue frame. I would also go as far of thinking even a 2x2x.10 steel tube (matching the parent steel) would help in a major way.
I see far too many folks adding storage boxes, second propane tanks and some many other carrying racks without considering what really happening. Then of course we add a WHD into the mix.
All said and not attempting to take away from the original threads purpose, I do believe all this is relevant. FR basically is saying their tongue design is meant for (in my case) 385#. 10% of the max weight of the trailer. If over, how do we compensate? I load behind the axle to reduce, yet best I figure, I'm still 15# over. Then comes the action (moments, still tryin' here) of the WDH.
I'm not saying we own a piece of crap.. We have a pretty decent unit for the dollar and a couple hundred dollars to get it to where it can be is well worth the effort and expense.