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    Posted: 18 Dec 2024 at 9:00am
Do you have a labeling sheet for different 110v circuits in the distribution box? That would help you determine which breaker to test to find out if there is power being supplied to the 110v in house outlets. It sounds like you have power to the other 110v circuits. Keep in mind that on your GFCI outlet (which should be wired directly to the distribution box) will have 2 sets (+ & -) of wires connected to the outlet. One will be the "feed" wired directly to the distribution box. The other set of wires (+ & -) will to feed the other in house outlets. Keep in mind that you need both the negative and positive wires "feeding" the GFCI outlet to have direct connection to the distribution box. 

If all that checks out then you can start verifying the wiring down stream of the GFCI outlet.      
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IIRC, GCFI outlets need to be wired specifically so that the power supply goes to one set of terminals and downstream outlets go to the other set. These are specifically labeled as Line (to the breaker panel) and Load (downstream outlets). Check the outlet to make sure it is wired correctly.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote GlueGuy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Dec 2024 at 12:39pm
If you go down the load side of the breaker panel, if a breaker is ON, then you should see 120VAC on the screws between the screw and neutral (any of the white wires).




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Post Options Post Options   Quote jdel3266 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Dec 2024 at 8:56am
Per the labeling on the door of the access port, the 2 I circled are for W/H and 15amp GFCI. This is a 2-pole breaker that neither are getting 120VAC to. The rest of the ones that GlueGuy circled are getting 120VAC. I have not tried rewiring the GFCI because I would assume that there would need to be 120VAC passing through the breaker before it would get to the GFCI, correct?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote StephenH Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Dec 2024 at 9:27am
What happens if you turn them off an don again? Some breakers don't flip all the way when tripped. It is beginning to sound like you have a bad pair of breakers, especially if you can see voltage between the screws and neutral on the other breakers.

Can you (with power off for safety) remove and re-seat that pair of breakers? Does it make any difference when you test again?
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Okay, so I swapped the breaker with the one above it and now all 4 circuits are getting 120v. Must've been a loose connection as Stephen suggested earlier. Now the feed wires to the bottom of the GFCI are getting a full 120VAC but still not able to reset/test the GFCI. I checked the voltage at each of the various outlets, they all ranged from .36 to 1.2VAC. I grabbed a picture of the voltage on one of the outlets below. The picture doesn't show my leads touching the copper on the live wires (tough to do with one hand) but it didn't make a difference when I did touch the copper.
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What wire are you testing there? If you disconnect the LOAD wires from the GCFI outlet so that it is only connected on the LINE side is connected, does it then allow the GCFI outlet to reset?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote jdel3266 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Dec 2024 at 6:05pm
Sorry for the sporadic image sizing, trying to get this figured out. 

In the previous post, I was showing the small bit of voltage between the common ground and live wire, not sure if it meant anything.

In the photo on this post, I have removed the down-stream outlets from the GFCI and am showing that 120v are coming from the breaker panel into the GFCI but it still will not allow me to reset/test it. 

When inspecting the outlet for the outside of the camper, I noticed 2 sets of wires. One that appears to be going to the breaker panel and the other to the outlet under the bed. I disconnected the outlets from both and saw no change, but am wondering if that somehow has something to do with it? I verified the outside outlet is not a GFCI.
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It is looking like you have a bad GCFI outlet. They have been known to go bad.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote GlueGuy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Dec 2024 at 11:11am
The outside outlet on our RP179 is slaved to the GFCI. If the GFCI is tripped, it will be de-energized.
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