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Tire replacement - Event Date: 18 Jan 2023 |
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hank*pod ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Oct 2022 Location: PA Online Status: Offline Posts: 63 |
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I just bought some Goodyear Endurance tires from Discount Tire Direct and they're dated 3722 and 3822 so mid-September - about 6 months old.
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GlueGuy ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2702 |
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After learning about tire date codes, I've made it an informal practice to check, and the tires have always been relatively "fresh" in the neighborhood of 3-6 months. I would think that with the high demand for RVs in general plus the supply chain issues that it would be hard to find tires that are more than a few months old. That is not based on fact so much as noodling here in my chair.
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2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River 2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost |
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lostagain ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Quaker Hill, CT Online Status: Offline Posts: 2595 |
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It is likely that FR and the other large RV companies are able to require their chassis manufacturers to build to their specifications, including suspensions and tires. They have the capacity to tell the chassis manufacturers that they want tires that are reasonably fresh instead of 2 or 3 years into their life span. Where there are 2 or 3 year old tires being installed on new trailers, it is clear that somewhere in the supply chain there are some sort of delays occurring to the detriment of new trailer purchasers.
From my personal experience, when I've purchased new Carlisle tires for ourPod and our Sonoma, the new tires have never been more than 6 months old, per the sidewall dates. If I purchased a "new" tire that was over a year old I think I'd either return it or demand a prorated discount from the price.
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Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
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gpokluda ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Nov 2018 Location: NM Online Status: Offline Posts: 392 |
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My understanding, at least from the small manufacturer that made our current trailer, is that the manufacturer purchases the axle, wheel/tires and in our case, even the frame as a unit from a third party supplier. In the case of our Escape, the frame, tires, wheels, and axles come from Dexter. I think the last thing a manufacturer wants is inventory like tires and wheels laying around consuming valuable production space.
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2017 Rpod 179(sold 2023) 2022 Escape 5.0TA 2022 Ford F150 4X4 3.5EB Kawasaki KLR650 |
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jato ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Kewadin, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 3324 |
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This seems like a very plausible answer as when our 177 was built, January 2011, supply chain issues or the like which is experienced today wasn't a factor or even spoken about as they are today.
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'11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
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lostagain ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Quaker Hill, CT Online Status: Offline Posts: 2595 |
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I wonder if the delay between the build date of the trailers and the manufacture date of the tires is the result of supply chain delays or whether the trailer builders are stockpiling tires and not using them up fast enough. My speculation is that it is a supply chain delay issue. Perhaps it's time for the trailer builders to be a little more strict with the date of the manufacture of tires when they receive them. On the other hand, there may be some very good deals on aging out tires when purchased by the thousands and the opportunity to reduce material costs is just too tempting for Mr. Buffet and others.
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Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
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jato ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Kewadin, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 3324 |
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Funny you should mention that as when I went to replace my original "Tire King" tires on a 177 at 5 years, it was noted that even though the build date was January 2011 the tires were manufactured during the summer of 2009, so even though they were china tires with 20,000+ miles at the time, no issues were encountered and the tires looked great, even after 7 years. 2016-2020 had Hartland "C" tires - no issues and since then Carlisle Radial Trail "D" tires - a great tire!
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'11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
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James07 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 19 Feb 2020 Location: Sacramento Online Status: Offline Posts: 25 |
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I went with Toyo Open Country A/T on 178. Drove over 7,000 miles round trip California to Alaska.
Handled pot holes and frost heaves on the Alcan without any damage. Happy with tires, except they were already two years old when purchased from Sam's Club. Lesson learn is to exam tires before they install them.
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lostagain ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Quaker Hill, CT Online Status: Offline Posts: 2595 |
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Proving your use in this kind of a situation really should not be an issue with FR, though an unscrupulous dealer may raise the issue because that's their mindset; that everyone cheats like they do. You are really talking about a dispute that is more one of principle than money, as the total cost of putting new tires on the trailer is well under $400.
Here's an Indiana number for r-Pod: 574.825.7000. My experience calling there was for parts, back in the days when they sold parts to their customers, but they were always very friendly and courteous. We had a recall issue with our 172 when we bought it. It was used and well out of warranty, but the recall was a safety issue concerning inadequate running lights. We bought our trainer from a dealer in Los Baños, CA, despite the fact that we lived near Carson City, NV. I called a local r-Pod dealer in Reno and was told that they would be able to get to it in about a year. Non-selling dealers simply won't deal with warranty repairs voluntarily. We took the trailer back to the selling dealer and they did the recall repair, but made a mistake with the wiring. I worked it out with them to pay a local independent shop to fix their error. They handled the situation with such integrity that we bought our Sonoma from them as well. Unfortunately, in the RV world, especially with FR, there is very poor dealer control on the part of the manufacturer.
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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
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Geezerbill ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Jul 2022 Location: Puyallup, Wa Online Status: Offline Posts: 38 |
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Lostagain,
First, indeed we do and thanks for that contact information. As my Rpod is a 192 with Murphy bed I do not think it was manufactured on the west cost but I’m not sure about that. The big issue as I see it, is I have no way to proved the miles I have used the trailer. It easily could become a pointing game. To lie about it is not in my DNA but I still have zero proof. I did take some photos with a plastic tread depth gage in the on ground tire and the spare but it is difficult to see. However, I will indeed call the lady and see what comes out of it. I thank you for the kind, helpful response you have provided me with. Bill
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