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RoyToy ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 05 Apr 2017 Online Status: Offline Posts: 22 |
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We are looking for advice on the hitch set up of our 2011 Honda Pilot and our (new!) 2015 RPod 179. We have a Fast Way E2 hitch, which was installed earlier this week. As you can see in the photos below, the hitch apparatus has low ground clearance. Pilotpodder pointed out that the hitch receiver on the pilot is 19 inches high (off the ground), which is higher than many trucks. Also the RPod rides low. Combined this means that we a ground clearance problem and we are concerned. We are considering axle risers but have heard many pros and cons. We are looking for information and ideas from people who have used axle risers and people who have found other solutions. We're open to ideas and new to the RPod world. Thanks! ![]() hitch measurement ![]() hitch mechanism ![]() long distance view of hitch ![]() close up picture of hitch |
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RoyToy ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 05 Apr 2017 Online Status: Offline Posts: 22 |
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Pilotpodder,
Thanks for the information and the dose of reality. You are correct about the pilot, but we are a Honda family and have been for many years. We purposely chose a trailer we could tow with the pilot since it is the only tow vehicle we have. We will continue to reach out about lift kits and see what information we can find. I say this because the 179 sits low to the ground and the plumbing and jacks have low clearance as well so a lift kit might benefit all the way around. Can you expand on why after market axle risers were not advised? Will be heading to the west side of Michigan this weekend and will see how it tows. Another option we are considering is to just use sway control and not the WDH. Any thoughts on that? Again thanks for your input. Roytoy-Lapeer Michigan
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PilotPodder ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 May 2016 Location: Portage, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 305 |
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RoyToy,
I towed my 2016 171 (recently sold) with a 2014 Honda Pilot with an Equalizer weight distributing hitch (similar to your set up) for the 2016 season (2,200 miles). Also, the RPod 171 did not have the axle risers that some of the RPods came with (so it rode low). Basically, I was told not to try and put the axle risers on after market (although some do it to help with this very issue). The basic problem is that the hitch receiver on the Pilot is at 19" off the ground vs 17.5" on most trucks. So you are starting higher. To compensate, you have to use the extended shank with the E2 or Equalizer to get the trailer level. There were three to choose from. I choose the middle length and had the hitch adjusted to the lowest rung to avoid what it sounds like you are dealing with. If I used the longest shank, I could level the trailer, but the shank would ride too low to the ground. So I choose the middle length, meaning the trailer rode up slightly in tow. I compensated by towing with a full fresh water tank (which is in front of the axle on the 171). I now have a 179 (and a Toyota Tundra) so I know the fresh water tank is also in front of the axle on the 179. The problem with this solution is more tongue weight on the Honda with the 179 vs my 171 if you go this route. I'd be a bit concerned with extra tongue weight on the Honda, quite honestly. I have to say that I love the Honda Pilot as a vehicle, but not as a tow vehicle. I gave it a C to C- when towing. When I upgraded TVs, I decided to future proof my towing and just bit the bullet and bought a good truck. However, I think if this isn't an option, you either have to do what I did using the middle length shank or try to get the axle risers or deal with a very long shank while towing. It's a tough one, but for Honda, towing is an after thought. Sorry for the reality. If you change the shank, your dealer may be willing to give you credit for the shank, mine did when I did an exchange. |
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Portage, MI — 2017 RPod 179 - sold / 2017 Toyota Tundra — My RPod YouTube Videos
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Patriot Dave ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Feb 2016 Location: LaSalle, Mi. 48 Online Status: Offline Posts: 206 |
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I would be interested in hearing more about lift kits myself.
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Dave & Joyce
Never Forget, In God We Trust; This Our National Motto. Member; Patriot Guard Riders, Michigan Chapter Retired; So Every Day is Saturday.... Except Sunday |
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RoyToy ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 05 Apr 2017 Online Status: Offline Posts: 22 |
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We just had a WDH installed (Fastway e2 Trunnion style hitch) on our 2011 Honda pilot for our 2015 179 pod. The clearance from the bottom of the hitch (due to having to use extended shank) is close to the ground and concerning. Can someone tell us what axle lift kit you used? Did you install yourself and how much did it raise the trailer. We are wondering if this would allow the WDH to be raised a few inches and give us more ground clearance?
Thanks
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Capt Kidd ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() Joined: 18 Aug 2015 Location: Chico, CA Online Status: Offline Posts: 215 |
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How did you go about putting in a 24 inch tv? Photos?
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The Pirate's Pod
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TheBum ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 26 Feb 2016 Location: Texas Online Status: Offline Posts: 1407 |
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We've done a few mods to our 179: adding a 12V circuit with a 400W inverter, swapping out the dinette cushions for a futon, swapping out the 19" Jensen TV for a 24" Samsung TV, and adding tilt to the TV bracket, to name a few.
According to my wife, the next mod is adding drawers to the cabinet under the stove that slide out toward the pantry. Neither of us is very limber anymore, so using that space at present is a difficult task. |
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Patriot Dave ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Feb 2016 Location: LaSalle, Mi. 48 Online Status: Offline Posts: 206 |
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You're Welcome John, I enjoyed doing it.
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Dave & Joyce
Never Forget, In God We Trust; This Our National Motto. Member; Patriot Guard Riders, Michigan Chapter Retired; So Every Day is Saturday.... Except Sunday |
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PilotPodder ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 May 2016 Location: Portage, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 305 |
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I met up with Patriot Dave this past week up at Petoskey State Park in northern Michigan. He had a custom canvas porch mod on his 2016 179 that looked great. I interviewed him about it and put a YouTube video together at the link below. Thanks Dave for the interview and great mod! John "PilotPodder" Marucci
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Portage, MI — 2017 RPod 179 - sold / 2017 Toyota Tundra — My RPod YouTube Videos
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RoyToy ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 05 Apr 2017 Online Status: Offline Posts: 22 |
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We recently installed a window in the door of our 2015 179. Wanted to let folks know it was not difficult, hardest part was working up the nerve to get started. I used plenty of blue painters tape to keep from marring the surfaces. My first surprise is how light the door is,weighs only a few pounds. The window supplier recommended using a variable speed router with a trimming bit, but that didn't work so well. Used skill saw with metal cutting blade and then a jig saw but blade wasn't long enough so finished with a saws all. Came out very well and the install was quite simple.
Purchased window and trim kit from Vintage Technologies in Union Michigan (2.5 hour drive for me). He was very helpful and offered phone assi ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Tried to upload photos but haven't mastered it yet.
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