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furpod ![]() Moderator Group - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Location: Central KY Online Status: Offline Posts: 6128 |
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Times may change.. but truck stuff still needs a truck in my book. As much truck as might be needed. ![]() ![]() |
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StephenH ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6417 |
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I could understand naturally aspirated Diesel engines not working well. I don't know of any current model of Diesel engine suitable for towing that is not turbocharged. They should not struggle in the mountains. Even naturally aspirated gasoline engines struggle in the mountains. The 2L Ecoboost Ford Escape we had until recently had better power at higher elevations than the 4L V6 that is in the Frontier we have now. The difference is the turbocharger. Nissan's specifications say that the engine will lose 4% of its power for every 1,000 ft. in elevation. At 6,000 ft, that loss would be approximately a quarter of the power available at sea level. The turbocharged Escape did not display this power loss. I would expect a turbocharged Diesel to also work well given similar circumstances. |
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Any that you mention would get you down the road. However, if I were making the choice, I would pick the F150 for the longer wheelbase. |
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john in idaho ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Nov 2014 Location: Eagle Idaho Online Status: Offline Posts: 613 |
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The way they build trucks these days, one is reminded of riding in a cadillac sedan. Quiet, smooth and one is looking down at the traffic. Plus the longer WB helps with stability. The down side is that you are often relegated to the back row of a big parking lot. We all could use the exercise anyway.
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Happy Tripping ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 May 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 473 |
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Times change and we should change with them. My 2200 pound 171 tows quite well, even cross-country, with a Jeep Cherokee at 4500 lb towing capacity and a factory tow package. If the trailer weighed 4400 pounds, or maybe even 2900 pounds - where a lot of R-Pod models are I believe, I'd agree with you and go with a truck-type, but a lot of 'Newbies' are into trailering because of the attractiveness of using their general purpose family vehicle as a tow vehicle and excluding these seems to be arbitrary. Note that I am specifically limiting this to the lighter 2200 pound R-Pods, not heavier ones.
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MontanaRed ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Mar 2017 Location: MT Online Status: Offline Posts: 5 |
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We tow our 2016 Hood River 182G with a 2012 Toyota Tacoma TDR (V6) with tow package. Living in the west, there are a lot of changes in altitude, to put it mildly. The Tacoma handles well with the tow, but does struggle on long uphill grades. Our usual traveling speed doesn't exceed 65 mph.
Note: You are in Oregon? Diesels are notorious for not towing well in mountain country. Fine for low altitudes and flatlands. Around here, the folks on the flat will pull their big stock trailers with diesels (duallies), and those on the steeper side of the state rely on big internal combustion horsepower.
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JET ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 13 Jan 2017 Location: Ashland, Oregon Online Status: Offline Posts: 72 |
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I recently bought a new R-Pod 178 and needed to upgrade my Ford Escape 4 cylinder to a vehicle that would be more appropriate to tow my new trailer. You will obviously get a great range of answers for what you should get. There is probably no one right answer although there certainly are some wrong answers. I think it would be easy to have a knee jerk answer to get a full sized/full frame pick up or SUV. The answer depends on your individual needs and preferences. For me I absolutely did not want to have to add an extra vehicle to my garage designated for towing my R-Pod. I wanted to replace my Ford Escape with something that would be an appropriate "every day" driver that I could use also to tow the small percentage of the time that the R-Pod would be in tow behind me. That...for me...pretty much ruled out almost all vehicles that weren't unibody construction. Long story short I ended up buying a 2009 Toyota Highlander 4x4 with factory tow and a 3.5L V6 engine (only 47,000 miles). It has a factory stated trailer tow capacity of 5,000 lbs. We installed a good electric brake control and use a weight distribution hitch. It gets reasonable fuel mileage, is a joy to drive, and I don't feel like I am driving a big truck that would be totally unneeded 98% of the time I am driving it.
My wife and I just returned from a trip from our home in southern Oregon to Joshua Tree California. This trip is approximately 800 miles each way and crosses many passes and higher elevations. We hit high wind conditions of 30 mph gust, drove in 90 degree weather, climbed passes that were miles of fairly steep accents and descents, etc. etc. I can tell you that with our experience I couldn't be happier with my choice of vehicles. Our Highlander could not have towed more flawlessly. I drive 65mph most of the way, but at times got up to 75 mph and could hardly tell I had a trailer behind me. Also I never felt any negative reactions to the higher winds (I also have a sway bar), went up all the passes without trouble, and all in all couldn't be happier. So, a full sized truck, or larger type SUV would do the job. If you do decide to go to a smaller unibody SUV, with factory trailer tow, use a WDH (and probably sway bar thrown in for good measure), has a factory rated trailer tow capacity of 4,500 to 5000lbs, I think this will also be a great choice and you don't necessarily HAVE to go to more of a "truck" if that is not something you necessarily want in everyday driving. For others who want a truck anyway, then obviously that will work splendid also. Good luck. It sounds like the vehicles you are considering will work fine. John
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fwunder ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Oct 2013 Location: New Jersey Online Status: Offline Posts: 1676 |
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I got a '08 4Runner.
Been great combo for us. NJ=>CA=>WA=>ME=>FL and many points between. ![]() fred
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2008 4Runner Limited 4.0-liter V6 Yes, those are wild ponies dining on grass while dumping tanks! |
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jato ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Kewadin, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 3324 |
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Vann, Nice looking setup on your picture. Please tell me where you were when you took that. Thanks. A great view it is.
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'11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
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Pod People ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 22 Sep 2011 Location: Chapel Hill,NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 1088 |
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If you are considering a pick up, I would suggest that you also consider a large SUV. We use a Ford Expedition EL and it has the same frame, engine, transmission, etc as the Ford F150 in most cases. A chevy Suburban/Tahoe or GMC yukon is similar. These vehicles have great advantages in enclosed storage and additional seating over pick ups. We love our Expedition and would recommend it to anyone towing a tt.
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