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    Posted: 08 Jul 2016 at 3:11pm
Mountainrev is basically correct, the biggest advantage to a pair of GC2 golf cart batteries is more stored energy. The common group 24 battery supplied with campers is rated at 86 Ampere Hours (AH). Adding the second in parallel provides 12 volts at 2X86=172AH . A pair of GC2s in series provides 12 volts at 225AH. There are also some arcane technical reasons that charging and discharging cells in series is better than parallel, but that's for us geeks. If you camp in CGs with electric hookups or for short periods the added 12V GP24 is the cheapest solution, but ultimately the two GC2s is better. The best solution is to specify the dealer puts in the two GC2s and gives you credit for the OEM battery. Batteries are always supplied by the dealer so he can do that. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jul 2016 at 1:47pm
Originally posted by Jazz trumpet

Why are two 6 volt batteries better and preferred than one or two 12 volts?  Sorry if I seem naive, Newbie here.


The short answer is, more amp hours.  I'm no expert in things electrical, so perhaps others will chime in to give a more detailed, technical answer, but my understanding is 6 volt batteries are true "deep cycle," having much thicker and heavier lead plates inside, etc.  Wiring two of them together in series produces 12 volts.

The downside with going that route is that 6 volt batteries are pretty expensive and heavy.  Most folks don't need the extra amp hours, since they don't camp without electric hookups that often or for that long.  For many, the single 12 volt (typically a group 24) battery that generally comes with R-pods is sufficient.

Since we do a bit more dry camping than many, but not typically for more than three nights in a row, I went with adding a second 12 volt (wired in parallel), doubling the amp hours of a single 12 volt, but not getting as many amp hours as two 6 volts.  It was a much cheaper route, since I only had to purchase one 12 volt (plus another battery box and a couple of cables to wire the batteries together).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jul 2016 at 12:02pm
I didn't know of those improvements.   All tweaks are great.  Congrats on doing your homework.  We were just thrilled to get a good price and a dry bathroom.  Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jul 2016 at 11:58am
Yes, we bought it brand new. We specifically looked for 2017 versus 2016 model since some minor updates were made for the 2017 model. The 2017 updates that I can recall at this time include: smaller 15" television (which for us is more convenient), the shower is updated (has curtain which attaches to bottom of shower), the axle is updated (sits higher). There were others, I think, that I cannot recall at this time. In general, we wanted all of the most recent "tweaks".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jul 2016 at 11:55am
So my 176  2017 is 14" longer than the 16, it has a closet and bigger bunks.  The TV is by the door and not by the bunks, thats how they did it.  The TV is really annoying by the door too, but I like the extra space.  It also holds 2 batteries on the tongue.  No shelf needed.  Apparently the axles are different but I would have to compare pictures or something.  There is also a outdoor shower thingy, but that is apparently on the 16's if they were built in the fall.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jul 2016 at 11:53am
Why are two 6 volt batteries better and preferred than one or two 12 volts?  Sorry if I seem naive, Newbie here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jul 2016 at 11:45am
Thanks for the post.  Was this problem straight from the factory?  As in 'Brand New'?  I'm getting delivery of my 2016 Rpod July 11 and will check this sagging shelf out. 

Are there any differences on the 2017 from the 2016 that you're aware of?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jul 2016 at 1:43am
My 2017 176 seems to have small things.   Stick not screwed in under the bench seats, vent covers popping off inside.  All in all really little things, but the number of really little things is really surprising.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jul 2016 at 1:06am
In our 2017 R Pod 180 we had a problem with the battery not charging while connected to "shore power". It charged while connected to the tow vehicle, but not shore power. I found the tray on which the converter sits sags (converter tray is located in the bottom of the fuse box cabinet). The sagging caused a short with the wires/connectors under the tray. I added a couple of shims/wedges underneath the sagging tray. The shims/wedges maintain the air gap beneath the tray. So far, this has solved the problem. Since we were on the road with no other options available to us, I had to trouble shoot this myself. This solution worked for me, maybe it will work for you (I wish you good luck with the repair and hope your vacation is not negatively impacted).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jun 2016 at 12:08pm
If your battery doesn't charge while towing, it's very possible that the problem is with your tow vehicle. If your battery was completely drained, it may be shot.  Have your tow vehicle's wiring checked to be sure that it is charging.  Have the battery checked to see if it's dead and needs to be replaced.  Even when using propane, the fridge's "brains" do draw a small amount of power from the battery, but it's very little.  With judicious use of lights, fan, furnace, etc., you should be able to dry camp for a couple of days on one 12 volt battery.  Two twelve volts are better.  Two six volts are best.
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