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hogone
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Calendar Event: Lost Wheel While Driving Posted: 08 Jul 2014 at 9:05am |
just curious (and hopefully not a stupid question). what is the point/reason of using a torque wrench (an honest question here)? can you over tighten? i have checked mine several times and they don't budge. i have a torque wrench, just didn't use it. i have changed/taken off vehical tires too many times to count and never used a torque wrench. again this is an honest question, nothing against using a torque wrench (which I will start using). hogone
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Jon & Pam
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furpod
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Posted: 08 Jul 2014 at 10:19am |
Because steel is harder than aluminum, and over time, you can damage or destroy the wheel lug mounting area if you are not careful. Many people never use a torque wrench and are just fine.. others, without the "guidance" a torque wrench gives, may develop problems.
Same reason your vehicle owners manual says to NEVER use an impact or air wrench to tighten or mount the wheels on your car or truck. Most will have no problem.. some will set the wrench to tighter "must be better".. I have seen wheels on sports cars tightened down repeatedly with this mentality that eventually had a actual failure of the wheel in the lug/center area.
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David and Danette
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Posted: 08 Jul 2014 at 11:22am |
Good question and a good answer that is something I did not know I learned something too, thank you.
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hogone
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Posted: 08 Jul 2014 at 1:22pm |
thanks furpod. hogone
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Jon & Pam
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John & Barb
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Posted: 31 Jul 2014 at 11:37am |
We were just leaving for our 2nd trip with our RPOD 171--brand new-- on Sun, July 27th, and a wheel started to come off after driving about 35 miles. We have a total of approx 600 miles on the pod. 2 of the studs were sheared off and the wheel is no good now. We were first told this would be covered under warranty, but then were denied. They told us on the phone it was denied because we hadn't tightened the lug nuts after 200 miles. NOWHERE in our manual does it say to tighten the lug nuts periodically, either on page 13 where it tells what the torque #s are, or on the maintenance schedule on page 42. I called the ofc of consumer affairs and was told to take Forest River to small claims court. Since the manual does not state when or how often to tighten the lug nuts, we would more than likely win. Anyway, since we were denied, my husband put the spare on and tightened the remaining 3 lug nuts and drove slowly to his friend's machine shop 3 miles from the dealer. When they took the studs out to replace them, they found they had not been properly pressed into the hub and came right out. Right now we're really glad we got the repair denied, because the dealer would have put them back on the way they were originally. We're using all new studs on both sides and buying new steel wheels and lugs. My husband used to build sailboats and drag raced in the past and has trailered all his life. NEVER has there ever been a problem with having to tighten lug nuts. When he asked the dealer why the trailer did not come with a lug wrench, the manager told him they didn't want the customer to do the tightening himself. He also told us we need to tighten them every 50 miles. Can you picture driving down a Hwy and looking for a garage every 50 miles to torque down your lug nuts???? Anyway, we've talked with many friends with other brands of trailers, and they DO NOT have this issue. They all say it's BS. I'm also contacted the state hwy patrol as advised by consumer affairs to file a negligence report. Hope you can get some satisfaction and enjoy your trailer without having to worry about killing yourself or someone else. Barbara Moore
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ReiMan1776
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Posted: 31 Jul 2014 at 12:01pm |
WOW! I just picked up a new 178 from a San Diego dealer. NOT ONE WORD about re-torqueing the lug nuts. I am really upset as this is a critical safety issue and the dealer should be both aware and required to have the customer sign off that they undertand their responsibility. Someone could be injured or killed plus the property damage. Here is a link from the TireRack website with a good explanation:
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=107
"When installing new wheels you should re-torque the wheel lugs after driving the first 50 to 100 miles in case the clamping loads have changed following the initial installation. This is necessary due to the possibility of metal compression/elongation or thermal stresses affecting the wheels as they are breaking in, as well as to verify the accuracy of the original installation. When rechecking torque value, wait for the wheels to cool to ambient temperature (never torque a hot wheel). Loosen and retighten to value, in sequence. Simply repeat the same torque procedure listed above."
I will be buying a good Torque wrench today and checking my wheels.
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furpod
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Posted: 31 Jul 2014 at 12:10pm |
Originally posted by ReiMan1776
WOW! I just picked up a new 178 from a San Diego dealer. NOT ONE WORD about re-torqueing the lug nuts. I am really upset as this is a critical safety issue and the dealer should be both aware and required to have the customer sign off that they undertand their responsibility. Someone could be injured or killed plus the property damage. I will be buying a good Torque wrench today and checking my wheels. |
Is there not a sticker, right on the side of the camper, with the instructions? I have to admit, many new buyer walk through events are pretty weak, but honestly, they can't cover everything. It would take days to get through each delivery. So read the manuals, such as they are, and pay attention to the stickers and warnings located about the pod.. I honestly just helped get someone through servicing the gaskets and seals, after 4 years of ownership, they finally noticed that sticker right by the door handle, that they should do it every 90 days..
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ReiMan1776
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Posted: 31 Jul 2014 at 12:20pm |
This is not a minor issue and would take two minutes maximum to explain. Much more important than how the TV gets turned on, fan works, etc. I own a small power boat and the first thing I do with friends is let them know where the safety gear is, life preservers, etc. It just takes a few moments.
Many people would have no clue about this. There is nothing more important than safety issues.
I will be calling my dealer and writing Forrest River a letter.
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marwayne
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Posted: 31 Jul 2014 at 2:12pm |
Welcome to the lost wheel club, it happened to me to. Check sticker over fender.
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John & Barb
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Posted: 31 Jul 2014 at 4:56pm |
This is NOT the same sticker we have. Ours just says tighten before a trip, not stating how long a trip is--cross country/Alaska/LA??? all those are over the mileage we have on our rpod.
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