GENERATOR - Event Date: 27 Feb 2014 - 27 Apr 2014

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   For what it's worth, the 110/220 and 120/240 designations are essentially identical. Way back in history the official US power definition was 110/220. That was changed to 120/240 within recent, but still ancient, history. Maybe 1950-1960. I was there, but I'm too old to remember exactly. Anyone using 110/220 these days is showing their age .

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CharlieM Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Location: N. Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 1797	Calendar Event: GENERATOR Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 3:44pm
	For what it's worth, the 110/220 and 120/240 designations are essentially identical. Way back in history the official US power definition was 110/220. That was changed to 120/240 within recent, but still ancient, history. Maybe 1950-1960. I was there, but I'm too old to remember exactly. Anyone using 110/220 these days is showing their age .
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hogone Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 09 Apr 2013 Location: St. Louis Online Status: Offline Posts: 1060	Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 4:20pm
	Thanks Charlie..........I feel much better now!!!!! I guess then what is confusing is they call the four separate outlets 110 and the 30 amper 120/240, so maybe I had a good excuse (I'm reachin!!) for being confused!
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Sleepless Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 07 Jun 2013 Location: Titusville, FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 556	Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 4:24pm
	Charlie, I must be older than dirt. Back in the Midwest when I was growing up, we referred to everything as either 115 volts or 230 volts. Bob
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fwunder Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 04 Oct 2013 Location: New Jersey Online Status: Offline Posts: 1676	Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 4:33pm
	You guys know better than I, but based on the pics I posted above, and with the right pigtail (110 to 30 AMP), can I use my Yamaha 2400 iSHC to feed the transfer switch panel? Knowing, of course, I can't use the well pump which is on a 220 (double breaker) circuit. I'd like to be able to run the little guy when I only need a circuit or two. Does that make sense? Thanks. fred
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CharlieM Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Location: N. Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 1797	Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 5:17pm
	OK. From the top. Jon: The 110/120 disconnect is because your generator panel is written in Chinglish. They should be the same, either 110, 115, or 120. All the same practically. Bob: Not older than dirt, just caught up in the inflation cycle. 110 became 115 became 120. Who knows about tomorrow . Fred: Your 2400 can be wired to the transfer switch to run your house. However, your house is wired to split 120 circuits between the two phases of the 240 volt service. You will have to wire the pigtail such that it connects phase A and B together on the generator side of the transfer switch and connects them to the 120V socket on the 2400. This allows all 120V household devices to be powered, subject to the 2400 wattage limits. This can be done safely; that's what I do with my 3600W Honda. But, if you don't really understand this, I would ask for some local help. A licensed electrician may not do it for you since it probably violates ObamaCare .
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fwunder Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 04 Oct 2013 Location: New Jersey Online Status: Offline Posts: 1676	Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 5:51pm
	Thanks Charlie! I don't think my electrician will have any problem with that. When I asked him to do the outside port and transfer switch, he said. "Why? Just plug it into the dryer outlet like everybody else does around here!" I was just scared I might fry one of the linemen fixing the problem... fred
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marwayne Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 Oct 2011 Location: Edmonton AB Can Online Status: Offline Posts: 1003	Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 6:00pm
	Let me confuse the subject a little more, as I remember from my younger years in Germany regular power is 220 or 240 volts the high voltage is 340 or 360 volts
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Keith-N-Dar Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 03 Apr 2011 Location: Mayville, WI Online Status: Offline Posts: 1447	Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 6:17pm
	The reason not to plug it into your dryer plug is that you could have live male terminals on your cord from the genny. I recommend a real plug and a working transfer switch. Also have a driven ground rod near where you want to set the generator and ground the frame before using. If you don't have a transfer switch you could fry a lineman trying to get your power back, and if you have live power on the male connector you could fry yourself or a family member. This is not safe. And if my electrician suggested I do what yours did I would get a different one.
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marwayne Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 Oct 2011 Location: Edmonton AB Can Online Status: Offline Posts: 1003	Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 6:34pm
	Keith, question? how can I fry a lineman if my main breaker is tripped, there is no power going from my breaker panel to the power pole.
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Sleepless Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 07 Jun 2013 Location: Titusville, FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 556	Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 7:18pm
	I am old school when it comes to connecting a generator to a household distribution system. My experience is limited to connecting only 5 or 6 when we lived in the Midwest. I would always install a 7500 watt transfer switch, properly recessed into the interior wall of the home. This normally handled either 6 or 8 circuits, and incorporated ammeters in each leg of the box. On the outside wall of the home, I would install a generator inlet box, which was required by our local codes. Code also required a ground stake in place by the inlet box. All of my components were Generac, purchased from either Lowes or Home Depot. I don't know of a safer way to connect a generator's output to a household electrical panel. Again, I am old school. My last installation was 12 years ago.
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