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CharlieM
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Topic: towing Posted: 28 Aug 2013 at 8:25pm |
Be very careful; proceed with caution. The 2012 Trailer Life towing guide lists 2000# for the Wranger and 3500# for the Unlimited only is it has the 3.73 rear end. Dealers will and do tell you anything to sell you a trailer. After you leave it's not their problem. I'd say unless you specifically have the Unlimited with a towing package, transmission cooler, 3.73 differential, WDH, and electric brake controller you are asking for problems.
Think safety and comfort,
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Charlie
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wingnut2312
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Posted: 28 Aug 2013 at 8:39pm |
I agree. The dealer I spoke to was Dick Scott Chrysler Jeep. I've heard what you did. I asked and they said the towing cap was thesame despite the axle ratio. The Unlimited is supposed to go with 3500. They're the ones telling me its ok. I'm getting the wdh, brake controller. I have the tow package and the dealership is putting the syntheyic axle lube in.
So the question is, who to trust!
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CharlieM
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Posted: 28 Aug 2013 at 9:38pm |
A manufacturer's tow rating is a complex combination of many factors. Safety and their legal liability are foremost. Next is damage to the car followed by driver comfort and satisfation. Rolled into the satisfaction is perfarmance and the ability to tow and accelerate under highway conditions including merging, highway travel, and hill climbing. This is where the 3.73 rear end comes in. It allows reasonable highway speed, acceleration, and hill climbing without getting out to push. The rear end ratio also determines the stress level in the drive train (transmission, defferential, drive shaft. A numerically higher ratio reduces the drive train stress for a given load, albeit reducing road speed at a given engine RPM. If within the original design - OK, but I'd consider carefully if I had the design engineers telling me it might me rough on the drive train components. Again, the dealer will be mighty scarce when you come back for a transmission replacement.
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Charlie
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Keith-N-Dar
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Posted: 28 Aug 2013 at 9:42pm |
Originally posted by techntrek
I just dug around a little more on a Jeep forum and from what I read the issue is the mounting of the hitch. Its mounted on a weak cross-member which can't support a large tow weight. |
This might be a self solving problem. If the crossmember is sufficiently weak the TV may move and the trailer may stay still.
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Keith-N-Dar
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CharlieM
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Posted: 28 Aug 2013 at 9:47pm |
"This might be a self solving problem. If the crossmember is sufficiently weak the TV may move and the trailer may stay still."
 That would do it. Let's hope the emergency disconnect cable holds so the brakes are set.
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Charlie
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Keith-N-Dar
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Posted: 28 Aug 2013 at 10:32pm |
I hate to rain on anyone's parade, and I know we have folks on board that towed with a Wrangler before. I hope the chime in soon.
My TV is the other end of the spectrum, so I am no help really.
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Keith-N-Dar
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wingnut2312
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Posted: 28 Aug 2013 at 10:44pm |
That's what I'm looking for. I honestly appreciate everyones concern. My kids will be in the Jeep, so believe me when I say I'm really going to be sure before I buy and tow. We just want the ability to camp into the fall. MI gets chilly, so aomething with hard sides helps.
If there are any Wrangler Sport two door owners, let me know how it worked. If you know anyone like that, also please comment. Soooo much info!. Thanks to all!!
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wingnut2312
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Posted: 28 Aug 2013 at 11:02pm |
That's what I'm looking for. I honestly appreciate everyones concern. My kids will be in the Jeep, so believe me when I say I'm really going to be sure before I buy and tow. We just want the ability to camp into the fall. MI gets chilly, so aomething with hard sides helps.
If there are any Wrangler Sport two door owners, let me know how it worked. If you know anyone like that, also please comment. Soooo much info!. Thanks to all!!
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Sleepless
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Posted: 28 Aug 2013 at 11:06pm |
If you are intent on towing a pod, why don't you look at a lighter model, either a 171 or a 172?
Bob
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wingnut2312
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Posted: 29 Aug 2013 at 6:24am |
We looked at that. The options available were what sold us on the 182G. The garage and entertainment center to be exact. The kids are young and sometimes need movie time.
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