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gpokluda ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Nov 2018 Location: NM Online Status: Offline Posts: 392 |
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We've since sold our Rpod but our new camper has 380W of solar on the rooftop plus a portable 130w suitcase panel to follow the sun during winter camping. We have 400ah of LiFePo4 battery capacity and a 2000w inverter that services the coach except for the AC. We sold our generator over a year ago. Just didn't need it anymore.
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_WW_ ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 25 Dec 2021 Location: Mt Vernon, WA Online Status: Offline Posts: 21 |
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I see that this is an old thread but I'm going to reply with the setup I use. I have two 180w flexible solar panels mounted to the roof with endura bond tape. I also used the tape over the wires as I ran them along the seam of the roof down to the battery area. I used black 4" tape and ran one down the other side just to give the trailer a balanced look. I have two 100ah LiFePo4 batteries and a 30 amp charge controller. Spent two weeks boondocking in southern Utah in April/May and never had to use the gas generator. Spent a month in MT and ID in July and only used the generator to run the microwave.
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Tars Tarkas ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Jan 2013 Location: Near Nashville Online Status: Offline Posts: 1452 |
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Maybe I'm living in a time warp but I have never had anything stolen from a campsite. Knock on wood. I try not to leave overly tempting items out unlocked, and I may have run a cheap bike cable through the "suitcase" of my solar suitcase. It would be pathetically easy to overcome that, and I haven't always done it I know what you're saying though. TT
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john in idaho ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Nov 2014 Location: Eagle Idaho Online Status: Offline Posts: 613 |
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I hav e a suitcase solar panel either 100 or 150 - I would have to go to the barn to check. But I have not found a way to secure it from a snatch and grab thief, which sort of limits its usefulness. It will keep the batteries topped up in the winter here at home.
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mjlrpod ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 Sep 2016 Location: Massachusetts Online Status: Offline Posts: 1221 |
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I have the 1000 explorer. I felt the 500 extra that the 1500 put out wasn't worth the cost. Your mileage may vary. The panels are pretty light, but so far I havent had any issue. Granted I've only charged it up a few times so far, I got it about a month ago, and camping season is close to done. I will still use it this winter I think. As a back up system at a minimum. |
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gpokluda ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Nov 2018 Location: NM Online Status: Offline Posts: 392 |
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@mjlrpod, what size Jackery did you get. I was looking at the 1500 when I started this experiment. How are the solar panels holding up. A couple of folks that I had talked to who had Jackerys said that it doesn't take a lot of wind to start moving them around.
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Gpokluda
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mjlrpod ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 Sep 2016 Location: Massachusetts Online Status: Offline Posts: 1221 |
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My Jackery can run my coffee maker effortlessly. I use it mostly for coffee, and T.V. at night. It works great and 200 watts of solar panel, I can top off the jackery fairly easily. I too will be hauling my Generator around for a while till I figure out exactly how to make everything work the way I want. Luckily, I already had the genny's so no biggie.
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offgrid ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
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7 amps is all you should ever expect to get from a 110 watt solar module. Solar modules are tested and rated full sun conditions at room temperature. As soon as you take them outside and put them in the sun they heat up. Power output goes down about 0.5% per degree C temp rise, and under full sun the module temp will rise by around 25-30 deg C. So out of the gate you will lose around 15%, more on a hot day of course. So at a normal charge voltage of around 14 volts you might get 110x85%/14= 6.7 amps. And that's under perfect conditions, no shade of any kind, perfectly clear sky, module pointed directly at the sun.
No one should be surprised if they rarely see more that 5 or 6 amps out if a 100 watt solar module. That being said, I disagree with the suggesting that solar might not be tried and true. It is far more reliable than any other power source you could own. There's really nothing to go wrong, you just have to understand want it does and doesn't do. Set up your solar module facing south in a shade free location at a tilt angle of around your latitude minus 15 degrees pretty much anywhere in North America in the summer months and you'll get on average at least 4 hours of equivalent full sun. So that's around 25-30 amp hours per day into your battery. That's enough for most folks boondocking if they're careful in their electricity use and don't expect to run air conditioners or microwaves or coffee pots or other heavy load ac appliances. If you get a string of rainy days, you'll either need a generator or a large enough battery to get you through the cloudy period. How big? Around 4 days autonomy. So if you're using 25 amp hours a day you'll need around 100 amp hours available capacity, or around 200 amp hours rated capacity if using lead acid, maybe 120-130 ah if using lithium. You should still set up you solar though, even on a cloudy day you can get 1 or 2 sun hours, so that's 6-14 amp hours, which could up to double your boondock time. Camping under trees with no sunny spot for your module? Bring that generator or enough battery capacity to last you through your boondock period. |
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LongRanger ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Jun 2019 Location: California Online Status: Offline Posts: 39 |
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Thanks. That answers a lot of my questions. I've been iffy on trying the solar. Think I'll stay with the tried and true for now.
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gpokluda ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Nov 2018 Location: NM Online Status: Offline Posts: 392 |
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Hi Lone Ranger
I was just going to post some musings as we finished up a round of campground and dispersed camping in Northern New Mexico before winter arrives in the mountains. It has been about 8 months since we outfitted the 179 with an 1000W inverter, new group 24 DC batteries (2) and a GoPower 130 portable solar kit. My goal was to be able run our small coffee maker and charge phones and other devices without having to lug the generator around. So far after roughly 7K miles of traveling including a loop up around the Pacific Northwest and back, I have to say that the setup met expectations. However, unless I get more battery capacity and more solar panels, my generator will always be in the back of my truck. While I have no statistics to measure, my gut tells me that the solar setup probably provided less than 10% of the power used while the generator supplied the rest. A lot of this is due to where we camp in the summer months, forested mountains where our panels rarely had access to direct sunlight and usually only supplied 5-7amps to the cause. So, in addition to having a generator (which weights about 35lbs), I also had 30+lbs of solar panel in the truck. No matter how you look at it, the value proposition isn't there. Where the panels do come in handy is when the 179 is in storage. I no longer have to remove the batteries as I just set up the panels and have the sun keep them topped for me. We will now switch to our winter camping mode and head south to the deserts until April. With fewer trees and more access to clear sky, I hope the panels perform better but with a lower sun angle, I'm not holding my breath. All in all it was a fun experiment but I am not completely sold on solar and RVs yet. FWIW, I originally was looking at Jackery solar generators. While they may not have met my use case, we sure have seen a lot of them this summer and fall.
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