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    Posted: 04 Aug 2022 at 4:48pm
I have a concern about our torsion axle on a 2017 179. I seem to remember that these axle housings are supposed to have a slight arch (crown?) to them. My question is how much? Ours seems to have about 3/16" over the length of a 4 ft. level. I'm concerned ours might be sprung since it's had a hard life.
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The easy way to tell if your axle is un-bent (so to speak) is to check to see if there is any outward cant to the plumb of the wheels & tires. The wheels & tires should be vertical to the ground. If they are inclined inward at the top, then you axle may have lost some of its curve.

I don't recall what the amount of bend is there by default. 3/16 or 1/4 inch sounds about what I remember, but I'm sure someone else will chime in.
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Yes, about 3/16 is right, but not the 4 ft distance. Run a string line from end to end of the bottom of the axle tube and measure the gap in the center.

As StephenH suggests, the more important measurement is the camber angle of the wheels themselves.

If you are concerned about the axle getting bent (and you should be, it's not uncommon) you can reinforce it. I have a series of posts on how to do this (as do several others with various methods) You can use the advanced search and go back a few years to find it.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote JimBinOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Aug 2022 at 1:37pm
Thanks for the informative responses. I will check camber and remeasure the crown. I will also look into reinforcing the axle. We have to tow this trailer over 3 miles of dirt ranch road to get to our vacation spot so like I said before, it's had a hard life and gets used often.
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While rpods aren't made for rough or off road use I found I could get pretty much anywhere I wanted to go as long as I went really slow.

It's high g forces that will bend things, and high g's come from hitting potholes or bumps hard. So speed is the enemy. Just roll through really slowly, crawling speed, and you should be ok. Might take an hour or more to go the 3 miles but what's the rush?
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How true.  A few years ago we planned on a NFC on Lake Superior in Michigan's UP.  For a couple days before that an unprecedented rain event happened.  The road was dirt and below the grade of the surrounding area.  It took us over an hour and a half to travel 4 miles to get there, the water was 6-8" deep and I was so glad I had installed risers a few years earlier.  At one point I had to stop as the water was over a foot deep.  At that point it was a consideration to turn around but there was no way to do it as the road was too narrow.
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I think the absolute roughest road that we ever traveled was going to Chaco Canyon. The better road was closed for repairs and we had to go in the east entrance, which is dirt-red dirt.  It was about 14 miles of  ruts , washboards and washouts. I doubt that I rarely got to 10 mph. It took us over 2 hours to get there. It was a great time at Chaco and the good road was repaired by the time we left.
Rpods are not made for that-and I have always felt guilty about doing that to our trailer.  but sometimes you just gotta go
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Post Options Post Options   Quote offgrid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Aug 2022 at 8:10am
I think it's fine as long as you don't create impacts. Just rolling slowly and carefully through potholes isnt going to result in high g forces. As long as youre not bottoming out (or in Jatos case not flooding the trailer) an rpod should handle it ok. It's just going to take time, so try to do it when you won't be blocking faster traffic (like hikers or mule teams).
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We accidentally got on a road like that near Chaco Canyon. It was about 20 miles of the worst washboard I 've every driven, and I am used to dirt roads. I don't think it harmed our axle on the Rpod, and I was traveling without water or waste, but it shook a lot of stuff loose in the trailer. I would have done a u-turn but there's no room to do so on those roads. I was fortunate that some locals gave us some directions back to paved highway, because it wasn't apparent how to do that, and in that region the phone signal was too weak. Not that I would rely on google maps or apple maps again. I was following google maps directions. It turned out ok, but was a road I would not take my Rpod over again. C
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Coachman Embarrassedresponded to my question on their Catalina Expedition series by speculating their claim the trailer was offroad-ready came from the torsion bar axle.

For some reason I now disavow, I towed the Gastropod along a 25 mile section of forest road into a camp on the Middle Fork of the Salmon River so I had all the amenities for four days of camping. That road gets hammered by heavy trucks, vans and school buses bringing whitewater rafters and their gear to the launch site, then their empty trucks and trailers back out. My trip took three hours in and the same back out, varying between 1mph to 20mph, averaging 10mph. Lost my black water drain pipe as the hanger rod threading stripped from all the hammering on the holding nut, but that was the only obvious harm.

Remarkable resilience to obvious abuse.
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