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Bolt on 2" receiver - Event Date: 18 Feb 2017 |
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Pod People ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 22 Sep 2011 Location: Chapel Hill,NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 1088 |
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We also added a 2" receiver and added additional 2"x2" cross member. we added triangle gussets above and below the new 2" receiver. It has worked well in several cross country trips. another important aspect of stopping the motion of the bikes and racks is to stop the front to back and side to side motion. We use a hitch quietener and also 2 nylon cam straps to each corner of the pod. there are pictures in our mod page.
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Dahuntsr ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Aug 2021 Location: MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 10 |
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I want put a cargo rack on the back of my 2017 177 that I bought last summer to carry a 3500 watt generator, 2-5 gallon gas cans, spare propane tank and the spare tire. I tried a 1 1/4 to 2 inch receiver adapter, but it sags low and bounces. I decided to look I into replacing the 1 1/4 inch receiver with a 2 inch.
A link to any pictures of your 2 inch receiver setup would be helpful. |
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jato ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Kewadin, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 3331 |
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Welding additional gussets and reinforcing will be a necessity for this to work successfully. Best go to a welding shop that will guarantee their work. As has been previously stated FR will void any warranty you may have once this modification has been performed.
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'11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
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offgrid ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
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If you add that much weight at the rear you risk bending the frame back at the axle attachment point. That is the weakest point on an rpod frame, because when you go over a bump or hit a pothole the weight on the rear and the torque from the torsion axle are additive and place a lot of bending force at that location. So there is a very good reason for FR to void the warranty if you do that.
Here's the second reason that adding all that weight at the rear is unadvisable. You need to keep at least 10-11% of the total trailer weight on the tongue at all times. Otherwise you can get sway. It's going to be difficult to keep the weight on the tongue high enough. Both s |
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lostagain ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Quaker Hill, CT Online Status: Offline Posts: 2595 |
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That's a lot of stuff to put on the back of an rPod 177. With all the stuff you describe you'll be getting pretty close to 300 lbs. that will have to be counter balanced forward of the axle. I'll leave it to the engineers to figure out how to balance the load, but I doubt any of them would recommend that kind of weight at the rear. Take a look at this famous video on what happens when you have too much weight aft of the axle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2fkOVHAC8Q
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Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
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jato ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Kewadin, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 3331 |
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Maybe put 400# weight on the tongue?
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'11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
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Dahuntsr ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Aug 2021 Location: MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 10 |
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Thanks for the feedback. Sound like I'm better off loading the generator I to the trailer or cargo area of my Highlander and just put the 2 gas cans, spare tire and tank on the cargo rack. That would be just over 100 pounds plus the weight of the cargo rack.
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offgrid ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
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Still too much I think. With a Highlander you are limited by both tongue weight and rear axle weight as well as trailer weight and fore aft balance, and bending stress on the trailer frame. Also CGVWR. All those factors come together to make your weight carrying options pretty limited.
In general, loading everything as far forward as possible in the combined rig is the way to go. I towed with a Highlander and ended up with a Honda 2K converted to propane and an extra cylinder both of which I loaded as far forward as possible just behind the seats in the Highlander. I highly recommend converting your generator to propane, especially when towing with an SUV. Also you can run everything with a 2 or 2.2k Genny if you install an Easy Start on the a/c. Saves a lot of weight. I also had dual batteries and carried water (you have to account for water you will be carrying which might be in any of the three tanks at some point). Only the spare on the back. I was right at 500 lbs on the tongue with full fresh water and at 11% tongue weight with full gray water. My rig weight was about 10% under the Highlanders CGVWR which is about as high as anyone should go IMO. I used a wdh of course. I suggest you load up everything and everybody and weigh your rig at a scale and use a towing calculator to see what you have (if you search my posts I have described how to do that and provided a link to a good calculator). Once you have a set of baseline actual weight numbers you can see what happens if you move load around without re-weighing. Think of the trailer as a teeter totter, weight in front of the axle increases tongue weight, load aft of the axle decreases it. So, say you add 100 lbs weight on the rear of the trailer. The effect of that on tongue weight is: old tongue weight - 100 x (distance in inches from axle to weight/distance from axle to ball). So you can try a variety of combinations and run them through the calculator before making your mods. |
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I agree you need to think about your tongue weight. I thought of a bike rack on the back of our camper but decided against it because of it's affect on reducing the tongue weight.
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Dahuntsr ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Aug 2021 Location: MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 10 |
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Once again thank you. Your information is convincing me to sell the generator and forget about doing any hot weather lotdocking at truck stops and to find a campground for the night. The reason I got the generator was so I could power the A/C when lotdocking or doing some boondocking.
Did anyone install an inverter in their R-Pod? I didn't realize or discover that my 2017, 177 didn't have a 12v outlet like my previous trailer until I was on the way home from the Illinois dealer to Michigan. I bought an inverter but haven't gotten it installed as every RV service (dealer or just service) I've talked to has a 6 to 8 week wait before they can get it in to work on and you have to leave it with them for the wait. 20+ years ago with my 1st trailer, I drilled a hole through the front wall of the trailer near the floor to put the wires through and connect to the battery. I stopped doing things myself on my vehicles years ago getting them professionally done. |
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